Oh, beautiful for Palin's lies

Andrew Sullivan has rounded up all the documented major, easily verified lies of Sarah Palin. It's an impressive list, a kind of "portrait of the candidate as a frootbat."
Palin lied when she said the dismissal of her public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, had nothing to do with his refusal to fire state trooper Mike Wooten; in fact, the Branchflower Report concluded that she repeatedly abused her power when dealing with both men.

Palin lied when she repeatedly claimed to have said, "Thanks, but no thanks" to the Bridge to Nowhere; in fact, she openly campaigned for the federal project when running for governor.

Palin lied when she denied that Wasilla's police chief and librarian had been fired; in fact, both were given letters of termination the previous day.

Palin lied when she wrote in the NYT that a comprehensive review by Alaska wildlife officials showed that polar bears were not endangered; in fact, email correspondence between those scientists showed the opposite.

The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin: A Round-Up (via Making Light)

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If you listened to her resignation speech: Quitting is the new not quitting.

I will enjoy not voting for her in 2012. It will be so sweet.

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Breaking news story: "Politician lies". Film at 11.

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Palin is the perfect vehicle for spreading the duckspeak-fodder that modern-day "conservatives" use to shore up their delusional worldview.

Facts don't matter; they're into Truthiness.

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yeah yeah whatever, she is still the hottest looking politician in America today. i would pay good money for a threesome with her and bristol

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Angusm: This.

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Do we know for sure that Palin has resigned as governor of Alaska? I know she said she did, but after reading Sullivan's list, I think we need to hear it from someone a little more trustworthy.

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@hawley +1

Yeah, c'mon, give da MILF a break!

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Hawley: You really need to get out more. When all we expect from our elected is that they are attractive, the American Dream will truly be broken. Though on its way it's not quite there yet. Whatever indeed!

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Let's add to the list the wardrobe bought for her whole family, many items of which were subsequently "lost" when it came time to return them after the election.

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I guess it wasn't technically a lie when she said of the Governor's plane that "I put it on ebay". . . she did put it on ebay, and it didn't sell (and she later sold it through a brokerage at a loss).

But why even mention that you put something on ebay if it didn't sell? Because the implications are that it did sell, that it was her idea, and maybe that they made a profit. . . all incorrect. The lie of omission.

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#10 posted by Mojave, July 9, 2009 1:28 PM

I am consistently amazed at the number of people who claim to find her attractive. There is nothing attractive about this person in any way shape or form.
None.

Zip.

Zilch.

Zero.

Nada.

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#11 posted by demidan, July 9, 2009 1:44 PM

aaaaACK! More Palin! Oh, well maybe if we all clapped our hands loud enough she would vanish in a puff of logic to never be heard from again.

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#12 posted by SamSam, July 9, 2009 1:50 PM

Um, this list may have made sense during the election, but why is it all being rehashed now and put on BB? Old news and boring. When BB-worthy articles about Palin show up I'm all ears, but this is just preaching to the choir about things that were old six months ago.


Why not put up a post about how she went on a spending spree in Manhattan?

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#13 posted by Anonymous, July 9, 2009 1:52 PM

Get your Palin Bumper stickers now folks.

Palin 2012-2014.5

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#14 posted by mdh, July 9, 2009 1:53 PM

Who would have thought she'd retire before McCain?

(stolen shamelessly from Letterman, true)

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Given all the conservative spin about "people hating Palin because she's a woman", I found it helpful to have this memory jogger of the many, many legit reasons voters had for turning their noses up at the McCain / Palin ticket.

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give da MILF a break!

She's a GILF. Get it straight.

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#17 posted by Anonymous, July 9, 2009 2:02 PM

We really need a President who at least knows (1) how to pronounce "nuclear" and (2) some other stuff. George never got it right, and Gov. Pa_in pronounces it the same way ("nookuler"). Need I say more?

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#18 posted by Anonymous, July 9, 2009 2:02 PM

GELF

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@#6 Angusm

Do we know for sure that Palin has resigned as governor of Alaska? I know she said she did, but after reading Sullivan's list, I think we need to hear it from someone a little more trustworthy.

Are you suggesting that she is still governor? Or that she didn't resign, she was fired? These days, neither would surprise me.

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GILF? She's a GIRRRRRNF.

Legend: R = really. R = rather. N = not

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#21 posted by Anonymous, July 9, 2009 2:15 PM

@19 - coldspell:

That I say, I say that was a joke, son.

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I knew a politician who could always claim he was misquoted, since he defined a "misquote" as any quote that made him look stupid (i.e. misquote = a quote he didn't want reported). I imagine Palin has a similar definition of the word "lie".

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No, no-- she's a MILF. Moron I'd Love to Forget.

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@relcec #21:

A lie is something you know to be false at the time you say it. A broken promise is not the same as a "lie" unless you never had any intention of fulfilling it.

Maybe some of Obama's campaign promises were lies, maybe not. We can't know without getting into his head.

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#26 posted by mdh, July 9, 2009 2:48 PM

Why not focus on a politicians who has lied about things that actually effect us all?

Because I really really want her to run again and again and again. I want her to sieze the reins of the Republican Party and drive it through the graveyard gates.

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#27 posted by Hawley, July 9, 2009 2:54 PM

despite my desire to have sexual intercourse with mrs palin. i do agree with #25 posted by mdh, a one party democrat system would work out so much better than what we have now.

not only would this save tax payers millions of dollars every year, but corporations would only have to lobby for one party instead of two. savings that would be passed to the consumer!

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relcec,

There's a current thread on Obama. Your comment was off-topic here.

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#29 posted by fnc, July 9, 2009 3:03 PM

Part of me wishes she would go away and her latest, um, whatever word she uses to describe it shows that she may yet do just that. But there's another part of me that hopes she sticks around and bleeds off the fanatical fringe of the conservative party to a corner where it can be treated like the circle jerking sideshow it should be instead of the One True Path.

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#30 posted by relcec, July 9, 2009 3:04 PM

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Mojave,
When we hate somebody, we have a childish tendency to attack everything about them, even things unrelated to the issue at hand. For instance, my son said he hates Thomas Jefferson because he was a slave owner, and he commissioned the Trail of Tears. Bad things, to most of us. Yet he did a lot of good for America that is not negated by the bad things he did. People are not either good or evil; they're both. Even the people you hate most have done something good, and pretending that everything about them is ugly and wrong just makes you look like a jerk, and shows that you are not a reliable source of honesty.
I think (maybe because I'm older than both of you) that she's the prettiest politician I can recall, ever, even tho she may be the worst.
OMHO

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#32 posted by Rossy, July 9, 2009 3:32 PM

I don't believe I have ever seen so many conversations about a politician that in one way or another always turned to how attractive/f**kable they were. And there are some fairly decent looking gentlemen politicians out there. I guess it's because women in general don't sit around saying retarded things like "OMG HE'S A DILF GUYS! TOTAL DILF! I DON'T CARE WHAT HE DOES, HE'S STILL A HOTTIE DILF!" about anyone.

Thank you, so many men of the world, for proving yourself to be sexist, disgusting and disappointing. You're making the republicans right about something!

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@1,

You inspired me to say,

"I am voting for Sarah by not voting for her." :-)


I'm doing/not doing this because "I don't believe in the old politics-as-usual,"* and "I'm not wired that way."*

* Excerpts from Sarah's resignation speech

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It took me a long time to appreciate the value, the balance, of the American two-party system.
Guess what? Neither party is right; both of them are. If the liberals are in power too long, we'll fall into socialism, and half the country will be in a welfare program or a government employee, and criminals will be sent to college instead of prison, and the few working people will be taxed to death to pay for it all. When conservatives are in power too long... well, look around.
The beauty of two parties is that when one side has gone too far, people move to the other side and the wonderful Pendulum of Popular Politics swings the other way, as it is right now. That is how we maintain our balance- not by standing still, but by rocking back and forth.
Well... dats' how I sees it.

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#35 posted by mdh, July 9, 2009 3:47 PM

When did I say a single party?

I'm already third party. Maybe even fifth.

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#36 posted by noen, July 9, 2009 3:59 PM

TroofSeeker -- That's James Carville's theory, that in the US we swing from one party being in control to the other. Typically for periods of about 40 years. I don't know if it's true, seems to fit with the facts. If it is then it doesn't mean that the GOP won't win any more presidential elections, just that if they do it will be the more moderate elements who are successful. However the far right composed of the likes of Sarah Palin will be in the wilderness a very long time. Their halcyon days are over.

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Meh... Without her or someone as 'remarkable' we would not have had our first Black president. She served her purpose.

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@ Rossy #32:

If people weren't shallow creatures obsessed with outside appearances then we never would have heard of Palin in the first place, because she sure didn't get as far as she did based on her intellect.

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ROSSY: "...I guess it's because women in general don't sit around saying retarded things like "OMG HE'S A DILF GUYS! TOTAL DILF! I DON'T CARE WHAT HE DOES, HE'S STILL A HOTTIE DILF!"

Are you so sure? Why, then, are women so prone to marrying a bastard who abuses her regularly?

Give us a little break here, Rossy. It's been some time since we've had a 'hot mama' in politics, and while I admire Hillary and Barbara Boxer and Connie Rice, uh, not hot. And some of us have our memory stained with the image of Eleanor Roosevelt- a great woman, no doubt, but a real cold shower.
Sarah Palin is not just a looker, she's hilarious.

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Agreed @#10,

Her face is all out of proportion. The eyes are too buggy, the nose is kind of small for her face, and that grin is just creepy. Plus, she's generally an ugly person, and that tends to seep out a bit.

I think it's more that she's not only female but also young-ish, so she automatically must be hot (*sarcasm*). You can deny it all you want, but how else was she even considered?

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#41 posted by buddy66, July 9, 2009 4:49 PM

Rossy,

Geeks almost rhymes with Sex.

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#42 posted by Anonymous, July 9, 2009 5:19 PM

you can laugh at her all you want. She frightens me, and her supporters frighten me. I'm old enough to remember how we laughed at Ronald Reagan in the '70s, and then he became prez and ruined the country. And then we laughed at GWB, and he became prez, and ruined the country. So it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Ms. Palin and her white power husband took the whitehouse in 2012.

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#43 posted by Piers W, July 9, 2009 5:53 PM

#32 Rossy

Thank goodness for JG Ballard:

# en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_I_Want_to_Fuck_Ronald_​Reagan

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#44 posted by DWittSF, July 9, 2009 7:36 PM

#24 Darren Garrison FTW!

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Mojave @10 I am consistently amazed at the number of people who claim to find her attractive. There is nothing attractive about this person in any way shape or form.

Also, the 80s called. They want her hairstyle back.

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The dumber half of amurkin' voters wouldn't trust someone smarter than themselves in the Oval Office. She still has a fair chance to be your next Mrs President, I'm afraid.

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#47 posted by Anonymous, July 10, 2009 7:21 AM

Frank - how do you know what half you're in?

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#48 posted by RayB, July 10, 2009 7:55 AM

The real Andrew Sullivan. Palin has nothing on him when it comes to not telling the truth.

"Through the Looking Glass With Andrew Sullivan"

http://newledger.com/2009/06/through-the-looking-glass-with-andrew-sullivan/

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#49 posted by bshock, July 10, 2009 8:35 AM

It's difficult for me to get excited about another conservative lying.

I like to point out that conservatives must lie, otherwise we would have hanged them all by now.

Regardless of what they say, there is only one conservative value: power. The only goals of conservatism are to seize and hold power.

Of course, conservatives will never admit this sort of thing, and will go far afield in claiming they value families, gods, nations, heterosexuality, or whatever. But this is merely a ploy to gain power.

Note that conservatives don't even bother to claim they value rare things like logic, reason, knowledge, wisdom, or consistency. These priceless items are a bit too abstract for the broader audience that conservatives are trying to fool.

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#50 posted by Maddy, July 10, 2009 9:19 AM

Rayab at #48 ... I'm not going to read the whole article from NEWLEDGER.com (sounds like Newsmax), because right away there's two problems with it -- it's on a blog that advertises Ann Coultier crap. Hmmm. I know, I know -- that doesn't preclude the article having some merit, but it certainly starts out bad. And because it waves it's Coultier flag, the piece is on a short leash with me. So, let's get to problem number two -- the article's first premise -- that Andrew Sullivan called Jewish people child abusers for over 4,000 years because he pointed out a practice of theirs which should be retired (and this from jews and non-jews a like). That's called a stretch, and hyperbole, and whatever term you would like to convey this article's agenda. Kill Andrew Sullivan dead. Because god forbid anyone on the right side of the spectrum question any part of the right side of the spectrum.

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#52 posted by Xopher, July 10, 2009 9:53 AM

Pacufuller, compile them. Publish them. Blogs are free, if you already have a computer and internet service, which you do.

Just be sure you use the same standard of evidence as Sullivan. And quotes, please, with dates on them.

Your first one is a broken promise if he said it; please show me where he did. Note, a speech where he says earmarks are a problem and we ought to try to get rid of them is not the same as what you say here.

Your second one isn't a lie at all; it simply points out, at worst, that he doesn't have a crystal ball. How do YOU know unemployment wouldn't have reached 18% withOUT the stimulus? Pointing out that he underestimated something is not the same as catching him in a lie, at any rate.

Your third one is just nonsense. It IS the worst recession since the Depression. There's a lot of room between a really bad recession and a depression. Your logic is lacking there.

So go ahead, compile Obama's lies. But you have to do better than you've done so far. He's a politician; I'm sure he's lied more than once. But I predict that you won't be able to find nearly as many, or nearly as obvious lies as Sullivan found on Palin, a person who doesn't seem to know the difference between her wishes and reality, even enough to make lies that will be hard to notice.

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Paco: "...It is not a coincidence that the states which are having financial trouble are extremely liberal states."

They dragged governor Pete Wilson out of office in California so Ahnold Schartzenegger could fix the state economy. How's that working out? He promised not to take from the school system, yet that was one of the first things he did, and continues to do.

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@ Troofseeker:

I think you mean Gray Davis. Pete Wilson was Davis' Republican predecessor (who also sucked at balancing the state budget).

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pacofuller,

See my comment at #28.

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Thanks, Brainspore. I guess all I got was spores.

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I'll stand by my original take on Sarah Palin: narcissistic personality disorder.

I came to that opinion after looking at a chronology of the Troopergate scandal. Palin didn't bother to keep track of the excuses she gave for firing Walt Monegan. She changed and multiplied her stories unnecessarily. She told stories that were easily disproven, and stories that conflicted with each other.

Sarah Palin isn't completely stupid. She could have kept track of which stories she'd told, if she'd thought that it mattered. Trouble is, it never occurred to her that people would remember her excuses, or care about them.

That wasn't bad judgement on her part, or an absence of judgement. It was a pathological lack of interest in other people's reactions.

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#58 posted by Takuan, July 10, 2009 9:37 PM

if not a narcissist, then a sociopath.

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She's a narcissist. Successful sociopaths pay more attention to the reactions they get, though they don't care why their actions get those reactions. Narcissists are the ones who sometimes make weird errors because it doesn't automatically occur to them that other people's opinions matter.

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A sociopath would be a better liar. Narcissists are too self-involved to bother to keep their stories straight.

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I think she's a classic, unhealthy 3. Take a look. There is deceit written all over it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threes_(Enneagram_of_Personality)

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#64 posted by Anonymous, July 10, 2009 11:52 PM

Troofseeker, you are right that women can be equally shallow about appearances as men. However, your "example" was a massively oversimplified way of accounting for abusive relationships. The cycle of abuse is NOT based on "Oh this person's such a hottie that's why I can't leave them." Please get an education on this topic.

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#65 posted by mdh, July 11, 2009 1:03 AM

Narcissists are the ones who sometimes make weird errors because it doesn't automatically occur to them that other people's opinions matter.

True that. Weird, weird, weird errors.

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Antinous: Elegantly put.

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I'm a narcissist. We never lie. Why the hell should we? We don't have to. It's all about us either way. Palin's neither a sociopath nor a narcissist; she's just another hustler.

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#68 posted by Takuan, July 11, 2009 9:46 AM

never held with those Enneagrams, mine always turns out :
http://www.eddaardvark.co.uk/python_patterns/images/spirograph00009.gif

and Buddy, your talking like an egotist.

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Apparently she enjoys the campaign, but not the position. What's perfectly clear is that she's not cut out for politics, because people keep tract of the things politicos say.
Maybe she'll end up as the poster girl for Winchester Arms.
It astounds me how fundies take giggling pleasure in blasting the life out of unsuspecting creatures.

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Troof, guns are like gays: they can seem strange and threatening when you don't know much about them, less so once you get to know them better; and when you've got a few of them in the house, you get downright defensive about them.

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Troofseeker,
ever read "Deer Hunting With Jesus"? (you probably have) Spooky but good stuff, eh?

http://www.amazon.com/Deer-Hunting-Jesus-
Dispatches-Americas/dp/030733936X

Takuan,
mapping Palin's Enneagram would be a simple task — maybe simple for Leonardo!

"Egotist"? Nah, just joking. Enneagramatically (sic?) speaking, I'm just another wretched 7/6.

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Oh, wretched are the fours like me...

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Teresa Nielsen Hayden: "Troof, guns are like gays: they can seem strange and threatening when you don't know much about them, less so once you get to know them better; and when you've got a few of them in the house, you get downright defensive about them."

No kidding. I am not anti-gun; I'm actually a pretty good shot. But I recall [oh god, here he goes] my brother showing my son, at about 6 years, his Dan Wesson .357, saying "Now here's a REAL man's gun!"
"Andy," I butted in, "that's backwards. A real man don't need no gun. Big cowards need big guns."
Now before you jump my sh*t, I'd probably have a handgun for home defense, but the wife won't allow one in the house. So I've got an old BB pistol that looks enough like a GI .45.
Some of toughest guys I've known got into guns, and it's never enough; they spend a crazy lot of money on bigger and better guns, and grow more paranoid. It's kinda sad.

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Jump your shit? No way. I agree with you.

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#75 posted by Xopher, July 11, 2009 9:17 PM

Troofseeker 73: Some of toughest guys I've known got into guns, and it's never enough; they spend a crazy lot of money on bigger and better guns, and grow more paranoid. It's kinda sad.

This, too, is like gays.

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Yes, I find myself incessantly watching videos of guys with big guns.

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#77 posted by Xopher, July 12, 2009 3:35 PM

That was kinda my point.

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#78 posted by Phikus, July 14, 2009 1:53 PM

It's all about who appears to have the bigger penis, innit?

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