Colorful ecstasy mimic tablets and cocaine in a "ukelele"
The DEA's Office of Forensic Sciences publishes a monthly newsletter called the Microgram Bulletin, which features news and photos about unusual drugs and drug smuggling techniques.
I like reading the newsletter for two reasons: first, it's filled with examples of human ingenuity (the August, 2008 issue has photos of fake kidney bean made to smuggle heroin). Second, it's mind-boggling to see the weird drugs that people like to take: Butanediol? Nandralone? Boldenone? Trifluoromethylphenylpiperazine? Sceletium tortuosum? N,N-dimethylamphetamine? Testosterone cypionate? Bromo-Benzodifuranyl-Isopropylamine Hydrochloride? I've never heard of thse. Apparently, the world is filled with connoisseurs of esoteric inebrients!
The December 2008 edition of the newsletter has photos of colorful ecstasy mimic tablets (above) along with photos of cocaine being smuggled in an "ukelele" (sic), which doesn't seem to be a ukulele.
The Portland Metro Forensic Laboratory of the Oregon State Police recently received 18 vibrantly colored tablets of five different types, all suspected Ecstasy. The exhibits were seized in Portland by the Portland Police Department, incidental to a stop for a traffic violation and subsequent consent search. The tablets were mixed together; there were six round orange tablets imprinted with an Interstate 5 shield logo (total net mass 1.7 grams), four green tablets, shaped and imprinted to resemble a “Transformer” (total net mass 1.1 grams), four round purple tablets imprinted with an JL Audio logo (total net mass 1.2 grams), three pink tablets, shaped and imprinted to resemble the head of Bart Simpson (total net mass 0.8 grams), and one round blue tablet imprinted with the Superman logo (total net mass 0.2 grams). The Transformer and Bart Simpson tablets were very detailed and well-pressed, and more resembled candies or children’s chewable vitamins as opposed to typical Ecstasy tablets. Analysis by color tests (Marquis and nitroprusside), GC/MS, and UV, however, indicated not MDMA but rather a 1 :1 mixture of benzylpiperazine (BZP) and trifluoromethylphenylpiperazine (TFMPP) for the orange, green, purple and blue tablets, and a 1 : 2 mixture of BZP and TFMPP for the pink tablets. The piperazines were not formally quantitated, but were present in a moderate to high loading based on the TIC and UV. The laboratory has received numerous Ecstasy mimic tablets containing this piperazine mixture over the past year, but never before in these unusual tablet shapes. Since this initial submission, the laboratory received an exhibit containing another 30 of the green Transformer-shaped and imprinted tablets, also containing the 1 : 1 mixture of BZP and TFMPP.Microgram Bulletin, Dec 2008
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Nope, not a uke, looks like a charango, Andean instrument (although the back should traditionally be made of armadillo hide.)
One of the bad consequences of this kind of smuggling (well, besides the more obvious ones) is that if you bring back anything unusual from your trip to Colombia/Panama/etc., they may take it apart like they did for this charango.
"One pill will make you grow larger,
and one pill will make you grow small.
And the pills that mother gave you
don't do anything at all..."
You mean Superman is still rocking after 10 years?!
From the TFMPP wiki page:
"So it would be more accurate to describe the combination of BZP and TFMPP as being closer to a combination of a weak dose of LSD mixed with amphetamine rather than comparing it to MDMA."
Oh yeah, THAT sounds like fun.
Alas, no love for the Autobots...couldn't they even have photographed it right-side up?
In other drug news, the Obama administration announced that it's going to stop wasting our tax dollars harassing cancer patients who have prescriptions for marijuana.
Not exactly a full-scale reversal of our terrible drug policies, but a bigger step in the right direction than the last few Presidents were able to deliver.
@#5 : RET3: Seriously; no wonder these DEA folks can't keep up; they don't even understand the culture of the people they're hunting.
I'm outraged by this... simply because when I buy hits of wig I want it to be wig. I'm not interested in anything else.
According to Wikipedia's article on hydroxyzine, it's a "first-generation antihistamine, of the piperazine class". I've been prescribed hydroxyzine before. I can't really say it would be my first choice if I were looking to get high. It pretty much just makes you drowsy, about the same way diphenhydramine (benadryl) does. Is it really illegal in the USA? Or is it just that it's supposed to be by prescription only?
"Apparently, world is filled with connoisseurs of esoteric inebrients!"
Or, more likely, people like ecstacy but are sold random shit. I doubt there are many people running down to their guy on the corner to ask for 4 hits of Butanediol and a little Trifluoromethylphenylpiperazine for the weekend.
Of course Trifluoromethylphenylpiperazine's legal status means it is often sold as legal ecstacy, so maybe people do get it on purpose, but certainly not by name :)
Nandralone and Boldenone are both "performance enhancing drugs" is the PC term for them I think. A few of those sound like steroid-like things, like the testosterone one.
So no getting high off of them.
@#5: three out of five isn't bad (the JL Audio logo is upside down, too).
um, I'm pretty sure Testosterone cypionate is an anabolic steroid. Illegal yes, but you don't really take it to get high.
Most of those only look like confusing drug names, you've probably heard them before, but in shorthand.
Nandralone and all that are relatively common steroids, theres all sorts of odd named ones and those seem to be an entirely different world so to speak from the other ones.
Sceletium tortuosum is one of those slightly psychoactive "legal herbal highs" people like to smoke in their dorm rooms, you've probably heard it called kanna before. It's not the most active thing in the world (compared to some of the more popular plants like kratom, which definitely is active, or kava) but still, it apparantly does something.
Anything that ends in "piperazine" is part of a huge family of chemicals that were legally (and still illegally) sold in NZ as "party pills." They're mixed with BZP, which itself is similar to amphetamine, and almost like a cheap attempt at MDMA when mixed with the other piperazines. With some nasty hangovers though. It's becoming a very popular ecstasy adulterant.
The one that begins with bromo is a research chemical most people call "Bromo-DragonFLY" and really isnt that spectacular, but its novel in that it fits on blotter.
About anything with "Testosterone" in its title is a steroid.
Some of the others are novel amphetamines that are just random adulterants. These are just continuations of the research chemical "craze" that started with PIHKAL and Chinese labs marketing on the Internet.
most people aren't aware of the plethora of drugs beyond the usual suspects - pot, coke, lsd, ecstacy, heroin, mushrooms, meth, and pcp.
there's so much more out there. 2-cb, dmt, dipt, lsa... so many wonderful drugs, so little time.
Brilliant idea, making dangerous drugs look like candy, so if you chance to drop one, some kid (probably your own) OD's and they add manslaughter and other crimes to your sentence for manufacturing and distributing illegal drugs.
I don't advocate legalizing all drugs, but this is another arguement for those who do.
Did you notice how similar 'mans laughter' and 'manslaughter' are? Creepy...
Nandralone, Boldenone, and Testosterone cypionate are all anabolic steroids. Butanediol is metabolized by the body into gamma-hydroxy butyrate (GHB) and has similar effects. Sceletium tortuosum is a plant, containing a drug called mesembrine that acts as a mood elevator.
oh man. i was totally given the transformers as e. and I did experience insomnia and borderline psychosis for 3 days. And even though looking back it wasn't actually e, I'll still never do it again.
@3: Well, he's still rolling, at least.
Troof, sometimes your hyperbole has a nastily cynical tone to it. You seem to enjoy implying people's motivations without ever coming clean and accusing them.
You could just comment on the post, but you wrap it in implication and judgement.
I can't tell you how many times I've heard that same bullshit, but I can almost gurantee that the colours and stamps are there to distinguish and brand a particular pill to adults, not to entice children.
"making dangerous drugs look like candy"
You think they don't make white, round candy? Does it create more or less confusion for children?
http://www.campaignbiz.com/images/mints/p7.jpg
http://www.sweet-shop-online.com/images/products/252.jpg
http://www.deborahspantry.com/LemonDropsandPepperMints2.jpg
"if you chance to drop one"
And how often do you accidently drop prescriptiion medicine? Is it any less dangerous than MDMA? Do they restrict colourful branding on other dangerous medicines?
http://www.buckeyeinstitute.org/uploaded_images/Prescription%20Drugs.jpg
http://www.healthcare-packaging.com/images/morepills.jpg
http://www.obamaelectionwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/pills-300x242.jpg
And WTF is manslaughter/man's laughter got to do with anything? Sounds like more weasley, emotional implication to me. Weak.
#18 sisters
:-) Don't take candy from strangers.
#21 MARCEL
Totally with you on that one. Taking drugs, whether illicit or legal, should be done with some responsibility. You can easily overdose and die taking any drug without knowing ahead of time what it actually is.
Another recent bit of smuggling ingenuity
was the bloke with the leg cast made of cocaine
... and I wonder how ingenious they are
when they don't get caught.
Testosterone cypionate is used illegally as a steroid but is also prescribed to men with low testosterone levels, including female-to-male transsexuals. Some transgender people also attempt to obtain it on the black market, sometimes because they can't get a prescription, due to discrimination or other reasons.
Black market T is sometimes mislabeled or contaminated. I wouldn't take it unless I was desperate.
Good job, Braindance (#14).
This reminded me of http://www.ecstasydata.org/ and how it used to have a free testing program. I went to check since I hadn't looked in a while. Unfortunately, they still don't have the funding they need, so there is still no free testing program. It's really too bad. It was a valuable public safety service.
Repeat after me, kids:
"I do not consent to any searches."
Tell you what, when I have any drugs, I make damn sure I don't drop them on the floor. That would be a waste.
the harm done by gangster-made drugs masquerading as MDMA (Ecstasy) very long ago eclipsed any possible harm done by people abusing MDMA. MDMA should be right beside marijuana on the legalize-ASAP list. The real pity is so many people have never experienced it despite thinking they have, from being sold bogus pills.
Oh, and as a PSA to any suffering from PTSD from say the Bush Phoney Wars; MDMA has already proven of significant benefit in treating PTSD in clinical environments. How appropriate minds shattered by murderous lies from scum be denied effective medicine by more lies. Anyone wearing an American military uniform should spit in the face of any DEA Cartel thugs they happen to meet.
#26
Check out http://www.dancesafe.org/
I used to buy BZP at the dodgy corner shop, before the UK's ZOMGovernment pulled it.
It was like having waaaay too many espressos and gave a banging headache the morning after, so I feel sorry for anyone buying these as ecstasy.
Did I miss something?
I'm pretty sure you have an obsession with ukuleles my friend.
I doubt there are many people running down to their guy on the corner to ask for 4 hits of Butanediol
In my social circle, 1,4-butanediol is as common as alcohol or pot, and is used in much the same way. Leave a bottle of the stuff in your kitchen with an eyedropper (it's a liquid), and party guests will mix themselves "one four bee" cocktails using orange juice or seltzer water. It's a nice mellow buzz, warm and friendly and sociable, and doesn't fuzz your head or dehydrate you like alcohol does.
arkizzle - re:troof
spot on.
As a deejay on KSAN in San Francisco in the late 70s, I used to air the weekly (I think) drug report. I've forgotten my name... I mean, some of the details... but here's what I remember.
People could anonymously submit small samples of drugs, for which they'd be given a number. The samples were tested by a lab called Pharmchem, somewhere on the peninsula south of SF.
The results were aired in the drug report, which IDed samples by test number, by appearance, by the area they came from, and, if I remember right, by nickname. You'd hear that a certain pill, supposed to be mescaline, actually was -- or that another one, supposedly LSD, was something else plus speed.
This was the time when our beloved government was working with Mexico to spray pot farms with the herbicide Paraquat. I don't remember if I ever heard any test results that came up positive for that poison, the suggestion of which was enough to make pot smoking a more paranoid activity.
I think the testing program was free to the public, but I don't know who sponsored it — or exactly how the samples were submitted.
Any mutants who know more, please advise.
read that Microgram Bulletin, you will see the nazi mentality that informs everything the DEA Cartel does. Virtually any plant or plant preparation that comes into their talons - usually by illegal search and seizure - if found not to be on their persecution list, is automatically assumed to soon be. These people are EVIL. "Anything not mandatory is forbidden...."
Anon@33
Interesting! I'd say its a pretty small circle though :)
'Kizzle- are we in a mood or what?!
That first pill is Bart Simpson's head. Wouldn't you assume that it's a SweetTart? Even if you were five?
>"...but I can almost gurantee that the colours and stamps are there to distinguish and brand a particular pill to adults, not to entice children."
From the article: "The Transformer and Bart Simpson tablets were very detailed and well-pressed, and more resembled candies or children’s chewable vitamins as opposed to typical Ecstasy tablets."
I was saying that making dangerous drugs look like candy is stupid. I've known people on drugs to be clumsy and forgetful, and I've known children to pick up and eat candy. Or something they thought was candy. Sheesh.
"dangerous"? No. Your post is as Arkizzle describes it. And you are doing it again.
@20
I can't tell you how many times I've heard that same bullshit, but I can almost gurantee that the colours and stamps are there to distinguish and brand a particular pill to adults, not to entice children.
SO glad you can tell that. My 6 year old CAN'T.
Yes there are round white candies (not many) which children often leave alone. Yes there are colorful prescription drugs (usually boring stripes without pop culture icons imbedded). Lots of people drop prescription medicine AND they are less likely to be tripping from the 3 other things they took. But other than that I get your point.
Take whatever you want, take 10! But when your not "mellow" have some consideration for the rest of the world.
Little Billy goes into Mom's purse to get his toy. Finds a baggie with Bart Simpson candies in it. Eats four or five. Dies. You guys can't see that happening? Don't have children in your life? You mommas gotta back me up here. Poison that looks like candy = bad idea.
If Mom's purse is full of dangerous drugs, that's Mom's fault, not society's. Mom needs to check her ass into rehab or buy a lockbox for her stash.
or Little Billy gets his daddies loaded gun out of the dresser while poppas at the Klan meetin', or maybe he drinks bleach while mommas passed out.
(Not to mention the popularity then of ketamine and GHB, though.)
i.e. designer drugs...more like, if Billy got hold of Daddy's gun, a fully functional and loaded gun but made of brightly colored polymers like a toy. Or drank Mommy's bleach from a container that looked just like a bottle of soda. Just to keep the analogies real.
enough red herrings: Prohibition is BAD. Prohibition enriches criminals. Prohibition hurts the innocent. This isn't about adult carelessness, it's about adult hypocrisy and stupidity.
Yes, the drugs do look like candy, that's the point. But I grew up with the bugaboo of- "Don't ever eat any candy ever unless the person that gave it to you is Mommy or Daddy, because evil nasty drug dealers TRICK KIDS INTO TRYING DRUGS through stickers or candy."
Which they don't. Because drugs are too expensive to entice five year olds into getting hooked. You go for the kids that can lie and get into their parents purses. (When you go for kids. Which isn't the case, or at least with the dealers who try to offer to me.)
SO glad you can tell that. My 6 year old CAN'T.
Then what is your 6 year old doing picking stuff off the ground and eating it? (in the hypothetical situation that someone is stupid enough to drop their expensive stash, moments before you walk by.)
I agree that prohibition is stupidity codified. But that wasn't the point Troof was making. And though I know from experience that goofy fun pills get made for parties, taken to parties, and et there; with no calculable odds of falling into kiddie's hands, his point was a reasonable one not deserving of ridicule.
no it isn't. It was deliberately couched in provocative terms borrowed from the worst of the Waronsomedrugs Industy propaganda screed and was calculated to provoke. This forum, unlike many, has memory and any post is always made in context of the poster's record. If any "dangerous" drugs are involved here it is those created by an evil, ill-conceived policy that is still supported by the malevolent and the careless. It is the worst "think of the children" nonsense used without conscience.
All drugs should be legal as they were for 99.999% of human history.
It is the illegal nature of these substances which cause most of the problems for users and almost all the problems for non-users.
Why make it easy for evil,corrupt people to get rich and powerful and for governments and law enforcement to be abusive and corrupt.
There is no rational reason for prohibition of any intoxicant and lots of reasons for them to be legal.
This is what I have concluded after 30 years of studying every aspect of the subject.
Eustace, there is the miniscule point (which you made accurately) to be made. But Troof added a fair bit of under-stated 'tabloid' into the mix.
It's something I have noticed as part of his toolbox, and I commented on it. If it had been the first occasion, the pointedness may have been undeserved, but it wasn't and I called it.
@ 42 and@ 47
Then what is your 6 year old doing picking stuff off the ground and eating it? (in the hypothetical situation that someone is stupid enough to drop their expensive stash, moments before you walk by.)
UM, if its candy most of them.
Lets say Billy's 3...
Billy's mom and dad go out on Saturday night. They call their trusty A student baby sitter, who though she was pissed off her ass last night thinks a 60$ gig that evolves sitting on the couch watching a dvd while the kid sleeps sounds fine. Someone slipped Bart into her bag as a joke or a gift the night before. Said bag is filled with all kinds of shit and is frequently unzipped. It spills into the couch she cleans it up but Bart slips under something.
In the morning Billy finds it. Yummy! Billy weighs 35 lbs.
This is not some kind of weeping heart conservative "what about the children??! fake family loving plot to deny you of your X. It's about chance and stupidity.
I took a stroll through his profile myself, looking for an explanation for yours and Takuan's comments, but finding none. I was able to discern his point pretty easily, with which, by the way, I do not agree. Saying anything more about why an explanation might be sought would really be offtopic. But not as offtopic as this, for example...
This ain't no party, this ain't no disco
this ain't no fooling around
the irony of the Waronsomedrugs is that, like a real war, you are along for the ride, innocent bystander or neutral, because those prosecuting this "War" are firing real bullets.
...the bright, candy colored button...
There's lots of candy-looking stuff around the house that kids can OD on. Bubblegum-flavored Children's Tylenol is liver failure waiting to happen. As to the effect of Ecstasy on someone who weighs 35 pounds: two words - Olsen Twins.
Eustace, off the top of my head:
"Isn't that curious! A few years ago there was talk about some thingie in the brains of gay people that was different. I hope to learn more about this stuff. I love brain stuff."
Behind the thin veil of ditzy innocence, Troof knows exactly what he is saying here. But he won't just say it and take the conversation that comes with it.
Okay, okay- I'll just say it: I wish they wouldn't make potentially dangerous drugs look like candy.
I think it would save lives if they legalized marijuana.
I'm not taking a stand on legalizing all drugs because it doesn't impact my life. Recreational drugs are in my distant past. The only drug I ever take is asprin. d8^P
"I wish they wouldn't make potentially dangerous drugs look like candy. "
A fair comment.
medicine is poison at the correct dose.
Behind the thin veil of ditzy innocence
"there you go again"
A group called Angels throws a big party in ZĂĽrich every few months at the town hall. Last time we were there they had a room set up where they tested yr drugs. Seems a sensible thing to do.
As to the side (and somewhat boring) conversation about drug shapes, I think the vast majority of e-takers don't have kids (though they may have smaller siblings). Yes, it probably would be better to not have the pills look like Flintstone chewables but if I were going to worry about things (and I do), that'd be pretty far down on my list.
This, right here, is why I stopped doing drugs a long time ago and never have wanted to go again. I had some very valuable experiences in altered states which, believe it or not, actually made me a nicer person.
But the worst drug experience I had was a very bad shroom trip (my fault--I took way too much), during which I had the very real epiphany that even if some drugs, used responsibly, were safe, I had no fucking idea what I'd just put into my body. Maybe you know your dealer really well, and have known him for years, and know he would never do anything to hurt you. That doesn't matter. Because it's not like your dealer is down in his laboratory mixing up your E. He's getting from someone who he probably trusts well enough, who gets it from someone... whom no one knows, who gets it from god-knows-what psychopath gangster asshole...
And we can all blather on about how that's why drugs should be legalized, so we can control quality, etc., but the simple fact of the matter is they are not legal, which means, by definition, that everyone you're dealing with to get high is a criminal.
So you're putting your body in danger by trusting people who don't deserve your trust, and if you get caught you can end up being ass-raped for a few years and then emerge unemployable.
And that's why no one should do drugs. Because they're illegal.
Nicely put, Kyle- coke dealers have been known to get too resourceful when stepping on an eightball to double their product, even using Comet cleanser. They don't give a rat sass.
I think it was the misrepresentation that irked me in the first place. I had a cousin blinded for three days in the hospital because he'd been sold gymsum weed as opium. A brother of mine was hospitalized because he thought he was snorting coke, but it was PCP. The girl with him was gang raped.
>"...And that's why no one should do drugs. Because they're illegal."
Legal doesn't mean much to me, but social responsibility does.
OMHO
Sceletium Tortuosum is a simple extract of a harmless but enjoyable plant called Kanna. Kanna was used by the Hotentot tribe of South Africa. Sceletioum Tortuosum is not scheduled in the US and is a mild selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor.
troof - do you ever post without backing yourself up with a wild and unverifiable personal anecdote?
I mean, if your g/f lives in Canada, that's cool, we'd just really like to meet her.
@MDH: >"...troof - do you ever post without backing yourself up with a wild and unverifiable personal anecdote?"
My cousin died from alcoholism, but my "brother" is still with us. He was on the crack pipe for 15 years, but he's clean now... did you want to question him? Or the girl who was raped?
My girlfriend and I have been married almost 32 years now, and it's been delightful. But she's from Jersey.
@troof - ok, let me put it this way:
"this one time, at band camp..." is how I read every one of your posts. The stories may be true, but you do not make the stories accessible, and therefore the point you try to convey with them is not terribly convincing.
In fact is comes across as an obtuse attempt to pull heart-strings and redirect a point you disagree with in place of presenting rational arguments.
I could tell you and the community about when I was drugged and raped, but I don't see my personal tragedies as being particularly illuminating except in the context of my own life, and this song ain't about me.
Fascinating. For those of you that are RSS junkies like myself, I made a feed you can plug into your feed reader for these bulletins:
http://tinyurl.com/dnm8ea
"Band camp" Hah!
Perfect.
I get your point, M.
If this was a physics class, my mouth would have been duct-taped shut. But I'm not here trying to convey my values as hard truths- I'm expressing my perspective, and often how I came by it. I don't expect you to change or agree. I don't even expect you to read with an open mind.
This is a chat room, right? I'm just chattin'. Please forgive me for being a little different. I was born this way.
Troof. Occasionally your obliviousness seems studied (as in the example Arky gave above) in comparison to your intelligence elsewhere, and therefore comes across as contemptuous to the conversation itself.
I mean to challenge you to rise to the level of the audience, I do not mean to offend you.
And that's why no one should do drugs. Because they're illegal.
Kyle, if read backwards your post is a screed for legalization. just saying.
"I mean to challenge you to rise to the level of the audience, I do not mean to offend you."
Yeah. I do feel better now. But I got flamed for suggesting that making ecstasy look like candy was a bad idea. I had trouble comprehending that level.
I've done a lot of training people that barely spoke English, and I've gotten in the habit explaining things at low levels. I apologize for sounding patronizing at times.
I make no excuse for sounding goofy, however. I am. d8^)
"I've done a lot of training people that barely spoke English, and I've gotten in the habit explaining things at low levels. "
Low levels of English comprehension? Or mentation?
Or are they they same?
"But I got flamed for suggesting.."
No you didn't.
I didn't want my first post on boingboing to be nothing more than pedantic blather, but it seems that's the way it's going to go. Here we go:
"Apparently, the world is filled with connoisseurs of esoteric inebrients!"
....'inebriants' not 'inebrients'. Sorry, but this is too good a blog to let that kind of thing pass.
"Quantitated"?
Ye gods, man, where'd you drag that one up? I just imagine a group of postgrads in a meeting trying to figure out the transitive verb of 'quantity' - and a la the tragedy that is 'orientate' - this little gem popped up. (Yes, it's a real word, in the dictionary and everything, but it's just such a clunker of a word. Besides, I'm on a roll here.)
Upon reflection, it could also have been born in the mind of a really bored military clerk, typing a longer word so that the form looks good and full, just like they all should. Why would it matter to a clerk that the rest of the world uses 'quantified'?
It doesn't matter that these were drugs in nifty-lookin' pill form. It's ingenuity, and no-one is going to stop human ingenuity, especially when it's driven by economics. If you're into transporting drugs you're going to need to figure out ways to trick the law, or avoid them completely. If you're into architecture you're going to try daring new things with daring new materials. Same thing, really.
I'm not even a bit surprised that people make party pills. And I bet that more kids get sick on prescription drugs if someone in their family jokingly tells them they're candies but only for adults.
So there you have it, my first post. Sigh. Ain't it grand?
cigarette?
Be careful, JQ, boingboing is a *gateway* site.
Arkizzle: "...You could just comment on the post, but you wrap it in implication and judgement.
I can't tell you how many times I've heard that same bullshit..."
I guess I misunderstood you, 'Kizzle. It felt like flames.
Hey JQ! Nice post! Hang with us, please!
The "how many times I've heard that same bullshit" line was in reference to the notion that drug manufacturers make ecstacy in fun form-factors to entice children with. It was not to suggest that everything you post (or even the significant portion) is bullshit.
The former is a tired old tabloid banner, that I'm pretty sick of arguing; and the latter I apologise for, for being unclear.
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JQPublick, Welcome! Nice pedantry:D
@takuan: Geez, thanks. I needed one. Sigh. (Actually I'm trying to quit. Argh, hooked again.)
Thanks for the pedantry pass, folks. I'm here all weekend. Try the veal.
Jq
Are they vegan? These fake mdma pills look like they contain gelatin to me...
Probably worth mentioning that MDMA doesn't work very well with most pill binding agents. Thus when you see a pill that is hard enough to keep these intricate designs, odds are your getting bunk. Although there are a lot of half-assed pill makers out there so you may get a not so hard pill that is also bunk.