Man arrested for shouting complaints about "Arab types" on Turkish Airlines flight

An "American of German origin" was kicked off a Turkish Airlines flight from Istanbul to New York for standing up and shouting loud complains about all the "Arab types" on the plane:
Daniel Sussman Pincus, whose age and hometown were not given but who was described in one report as an American of German origin, shouted his complaints as the flight was preparing to depart Monday.
PLANE CRAZY (Thanks, Bill!)

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I'm sure if I was standing and shouting on a plane they'd pull me off of it too, regardless of what I was shouting.

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I can only imagine how surprised and distraught he must have been tp find that there's people in the world who look differently.

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Imagine the nerve of all those people with brown skin being on a Turkish Airlines flight from Istanbul. That's the trouble with going abroad - foreigners everywhere.

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Dum fuck probably doesn't even know that Turks are not Arabs. There might not have been a single Arab on the plane.

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I especially wonder why it is worth mentioning that he is of 'german origin'. In this respect 'arab looking' and 'german origin' are just the same thing when it comes to prejudice. (the arabs are terrorists, germans are nazis sort of thing.)

why should there be more racists in germany than anywhere else in the world?
--> Milgram!

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#6 posted by EH , January 21, 2009 11:24 PM

now this is something i'd like to see in the US.

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Monday. The last day of George W. B***'s rule. Appropriate, somehow.

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#8 posted by Anonymous , January 22, 2009 12:35 AM

How odd.

I'm an American (of partial German orgin!?) in Turkey. Many Turks from İstanbul are paler than southern Italians and most Turks in Western Turkey lead a very European-oriented lifestyle. There are certainly many Turks who are traditional, very religious, and darker skinned as well, nevertheless non-arab (although, there very well could have been arabs! aboard). The real question is how this man wound up in İstanbul in the first place? Was it just a connecting flight? Germany has nearly 3 million Turks living in it, if he was living in Germany, one might think that he would know that Turks are not Arabs.

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So, an American shouting about Arabs (pronounced "Ay-rahbs") on a plane gets kicked off. I wonder what a skymarshal would do if it had been an Ay-rahb shouting anti-American stuff?

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#9 - He would probably have been kicked off, too.

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#9 - I sense you are trying to make a point, but it eludes me. Care to clarify?

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sure this isn't an Onion article?

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> I especially wonder why it is worth mentioning that he is of 'german origin'.

To draw attention to his origin perhaps? I wonder how many people are withholding the obvious conclusion. Disclaimer: your meaning of obvious might not be exactly the same as mine.

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A crazy homeless guy fell asleep on my train last Tuesday and was escorted off by authorities.

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I think #9 is hinting that our hypothetical Arab would've been shot by one of your sky sheriffs.

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Ahem. The article doesn't say anything about the man being arrested. Maybe someone should change the headline.

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#17 posted by noen , January 22, 2009 5:13 AM

"Many Turks from İstanbul are paler than southern Italians "

There was a time not that long ago in the US when Italians were not considered "white".

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It's a good thing he didn't do that on the New York end. If so, they'd've carted off everyone else on the plane.

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#19 posted by Anonymous , January 22, 2009 7:32 AM

Well, Noen, there was a time not that long ago in the US when the Irish were not considered "white", either.

I tell my daughter she's white. And black. And Native American. And also of Italian and Irish descent.

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I suspect "of German origin" is not an attempt to paint him as a Nazi, but just a very oddly PC way of saying "white."

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There was a time not that long ago in the US when Italians were not considered "white".

There was a time not much beyond that, when Southern Italians were not considered "white" by quite a lot of Northern Italians, who liked to believe they were in fact imposters from North Africa.

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What, no Snakes on a Plane reference yet? The internet is failing!

"I have had it with these motherfucking Arabs on this motherfucking plane!"

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Way to get kicked off a plane and banned from Air travel foreevr! YAY!

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Interestingly enough, Arap (in other words, Arab) is a Turkish derogatory term for "black". He probably didn't know that, but I'll bet the people who threw him off the plane did.

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Poor Pincus...

Poor little Pincus...

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I wonder to what extent 'tossed off a plane' means tossed off of all commercial air carriers. It seems in our hyper vigilant environment crossing the authorities once could mean paying the price of great inconvenience for the foreseeable future.

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"There was a time not much beyond that, when Southern Italians were not considered "white" by quite a lot of Northern Italians, who liked to believe they were in fact imposters from North Africa."

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm_LbJTvTWA

*The opinions/language expressed in this link are not necessarily the views of.. blah blah blah..

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I'm sure when he get's home he will write a long letter to his senator about how "the Middle East is FULL OF ARABS!! We gotta DO sumpin' 'bout this!!"

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I suspect that "of German origin" was tossed in there because "Daniel Sussman Pincus" would otherwise be assumed to be an Ashkenazi name...

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My take on "American of German origin":

It might be a way to explain that he was German born and raised but relatively recently became an American citizen. That would be useful, clarifying information if there was video of him shouting in accented English, for example.

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#31 posted by Anonymous , January 23, 2009 3:42 AM

"I suspect that "of German origin" was tossed in there because "Daniel Sussman Pincus" would otherwise be assumed to be an Ashkenazi name..."

No, it's far more logical to conclude that "Daniel Sussman Pincus" is in fact of Jewish Ashkenazi origins, since that is in fact an obviously Jewish Ashkenazi name. The writer "tossed in" the "American of German origin" line in order to distract the reader's attention from that fact. The majority of immigrants from Europe to the USA were German so "American of German origin" is now an almost meaningless description. It's a great obfuscation, however.

Seriously, you don't think he's Jewish? I've seen plenty of Jews freak out in the presence of otherwise peaceful Muslims, yet the writer here is trying to sneakily apply PC subtext to imply that this person was either a redneck or a nazi, or both.

This is yet another classic example of media codespeak. But we aren't supposed to notice it. Or talk about it.

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#32 posted by Anonymous , January 23, 2009 4:31 PM

Guess he should've just complained about the Armenians?

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