Kaden Harris's alcohol without liquid delivery system
Over the years, we've posted about vaporized alcohol delivery systems that enable users to "inhale" their booze. Well, Kaden Harris, the incredible eccentric genius who creates antiques from a parallel universe, has constructed his own "alcohol without liquid" device. Of course, Kaden's machine, named Mr. Mister, is far more enticing than the commercial versions. From Kaden's project page:
Kaden Harris's Mr. MisterThe tech is pretty simple: It's an industrial strength ultrasonic mist generator in a sealed chamber, with a 3 outlet manifold so you and two friends can get traditionally festive in a new and exciting way.
It does wot it sez on the package.
With considerable efficiency when used with resin/ethyl alcohol solutions.
Previously:
- States may ban vaporized alcohol delivery system - Boing Boing
- Vapourised vodka inhalers come to NYC clubs - Boing Boing
- Kaden Harris's Focus Engine - Boing Boing
- Eccentric Cubicle: Office Accessories from a Parallel Universe ...
- Retro bong designed and built in 11 minutes - Boing Boing
- BBtv - Pesco and Kaden Harris, Eccentric Genius
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i got a hangover just looking this thing.
That last line seems to speak with the weight of an authority on such experimentation.
"considerable efficiency" Meaning less Big Booze profits, less government taxes. The inventor will be jailed for life.
How can this be legal, and the smoking of a single fatty will land you in the clink?
Cupcake Faerie: Here in Dallas, Texas, the mere act of drinking a single drink in a bar can get you arrested for public intoxication. God forbid you /dance/ in a bar (or any other structure) not licensed as a dance hall, which can get you AND the owner of the property fined.
The USA has a long, long way to go to being a free state that respects the rights of individuals.
This reminds me of my frat days, when I discovered a group of clever Georgia Tech students who would pour a few shots of vodka in a solo cup, drop some dry ice in, then inhale the fumes with a straw.
It got the job done.
#5 Bardfin:
Somehow I doubt that drinking a single drink can get you arrested for public intoxication. Maybe being drunk in public can get you arrested for that, and maybe one drink will do it for you but the mere act of drinking a single drink will not get you arrested.
In Texas you can buy alcohol at drive through centres.
I wonder what ill health effects this might lead to. I'm assuming you're absorbing the alcohol through your Lungs since you're inhaling it. Would that mean a quicker buzz? Better or worse hangover, or no difference? Would it affect the lungs at all over time, like smoking? Would it be less stress on the liver? Probably not since the alcohol is still going into the blood. (Not a medical expert here obviously.)
The phrase "resin/ethyl alcohol solutions" worries me. I tend to think that inhaling resin in any form is rather bad for you.
Re: Legality
I'm pretty sure that certain jurisdictions would be more than happy to invoke the Tommy Chong Greybar Hotel clause on my not-particularly-sorry Canadian ass were I to aggressively market towards the Mallowmar consuming demographic.
The fact of the matter is that this is my proof of concept for a radical new method of safely and efficiently administering medicinal THC, one which eschews the societal stigma associated with sparking a phatty. Wrapping the process in a clinical kinda skin is gonna go a long way towards easing the psychological angst experienced by the medical community when faced with yet another angry mob demanding access to an age old curative.
Remember... ya saw it here first.
K
@ Igpajo, I wonder about this as well. However, as I understand it, the whole "booze breath" effect is caused by alcohol evaporating out of the blood and into the lungs where it is then exhaled. Any adverse effects of an alcohol presence in the lungs are probably already manifest in any booze-bag out there, right? Anybody actually know anything more about this than my pub-quiz grade sciolism?
I for one really enjoy a good brandy, which is taken in through the nose as much as across the lips. That's halfway there, right? Also, I've heard that chef's have a higher incident of alcoholism due to prolonged inhalation of evaporated alcohol from cooking wines. Another old wives' tale?
They should call it "The Reverse Breathalizer."
http://thcvaporizer.com/
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/248479_nsecondary16.html
http://www.sacrednarghile.com/en/index.php
Kentucky-where the bars stay open till 4 and open at 6, made these illegal this year. Why one method of conception is a tradition, and a new method illegal is beyond me.
#10: Kaden, like the one in the link that Takuan posted in #13, the vaporizer has been around for years and years. You might be a little late.
I really want to know about the hangover from this thing. Or how about alcohol with more impurities?
I'm well aware of the prior history of vapourizors; I think there's been a bOING posting about my 'El Vapour' piece. They use a heating element to achieve the effect, and are generally a huge pain in the ass to get efficient results from.
My process is room temperature, which is lets you use an alcohol based solution for extremely efficient usage.
...This is essentially a "Zap-U-Lator" for booze instead of pot. But inhaling booze is nothing knew. Brandy Snifting has been going on for centuries, although I do *not* reocmmend it for anyone with a sinus infection.
Other than intravenously, I think the fastest way to get drunk is to partake of the alcoholic beverage rectally. I read it somewhere - I'm not going to test it out though, so one of you give this a test and get back to us with the results.
Kaden, doesn't MJ have to be decarboxylated before it's effective - which is typically done with heat? Have you figured out a heat-free way to do it?
320 degrees for 5 minutes before extraction. It's the green dragon way.
There are better ways to do it I'm sure - but I've seen videos of people vaporizing herb in an upside down glass in a microwave. There must have more to it though - its been a while since I watched it - maybe there was a tube involved? Otherwise you'd think a lot of the vapor would be lost.
Of course, I work for a company that random drug tests - so I can't try this out for myself for at least 8 years. Not that I'd try it while my kids still live at home anyway. Plus, my wife probably wont let me - we'll see.
Believe it or not, some of us drink for the flavor as well as the buzz. This is silly and un-appetizing. Right up there with complete meals in a pill because eating is such a chore.
@24: Your epicurean appreciation of quality hooch is duly noted. This particular thread is about something else.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
@#24 Kid Geezer
Right there with you. The best way to cosume alcohol is incorporated at a concentration of 14% in a South Australian Shiraz thats been sitting in your cellar for ten years.
Or in beer.
Re: Drinking for the flavor: - All my life I've read and watched on movies and television, people enjoying liquors, spirits and other hard beverages. Connoisseurs describe the best liquors in such a way that you would think it would taste sooo good. "After you taste this 100 year old Brandy, for the rest of your life when you taste a Brandy, you'll be saddened, for you'll never taste a Brandy as good as this." - Lines like this makes me want to find a liquor that tastes so good, but I've yet to taste a liquor that didn't burn all the way down and make me want to retch.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a nice mixed drink, but the closest I've come to enjoying the taste of a liquor straight, is a shot of Jose' Cuervo Gold with and a slice of lime and salt. I've tried pretty much every class (?) of liquor. Each whiskey or vodka tastes as bad as the last. Is the problem that about $30.00 is the most I've ever spent on a bottle of liquor? Do I need to spend a lot to get the taste described in books and movies?
Ahh - right, this thread is about something else - Sorry, didn't meant to derail the thread w my last post.
Looks like a really effective way to ingest a lethal dose of EtOH quickly.
@#8 and 11: it's all about the vapor pressure gradient across the alveolar membrane. More alcohol vapor in the lungs than in the blood means that the alcohol will travel toward the area with less alcohol, just like O2 and CO2.
Tom @ 20: I b'leeve that the alveolar membranes are even thinner than the mucosa in the colon and large intestine. Therefore speed of absorption of alcohol into the blood stream via the lungs is greater than that of the colon.
/physiology
/histology
Hard liquor only works if you drink it regularly. If you drink it infrequently, you really notice the ethanol quality.
Hi Kaden. Sorry to be an old fart. I do have faint memories of a time in my life when the idea of inhaling alcohol would have induced paroxysms of joy. Very faint memories.
You should try and fit an attachment on the side so you can screw nitrous oxide bulbs into it as well, now theres a cocktail!
@Tom I don't mind Glenlivet single malt scotch straight, but in general I agree with your observation that straight spirits are really a means to an end...
@31
Good plan. We're gonna need to be heavily medicated to weather the recession. Now you have me pondering the wisdom of bodging the whole mechanism into the base of a Gysin dreammachine so we can get the alpha state lucid dreaming thing happening as well.
I say we call it the Zombietron.
Is there a legal way to get nitrous oxide other than in cans of whipped cream? Other than having some sort of medical degree.
That stupid hand-sanitizer stuff does a similar job --- the alcohol is absorbed through the skin & sinuses, entering the bloodstream via the capillaries and producing a mild state of intoxication. That's why some people can't stop playing with the stuff (besides, it dessicates the skin, making them feel like they need more "lotion") and get agitated when they can't get it, even if there's good ol' soap & water right there. To me, it ranks up there with patent medicines spiked with radium or cocaine in the pantheon of harmful quack "medicines" that were mistaken for good ideas at the time.
The Zombietron - a labotomy in a bottle!
Yay!
@Tom well in Australia you can buy boxes of little cylinders of compressed nitrous oxide for the purpose of whipping cream, I don't know if thats what you mean?
But don't accidently inhale little cylinders of compressed carbon dioxide, for making sparkling water, or YOU'LL DIE.
I can get drunk on my own without extra help thankyouverymuch.
But as an ex-tobacco-smoker who doesn't like to inhale smoke, the "resin/ethyl alcohol" thing - I find that intriguing.
"Wrapping the process in a clinical kinda skin is gonna go a long way towards easing the psychological angst experienced by the medical community when faced with yet another angry mob demanding access to an age old curative."
Isn't that exactly what Marinol is?
This thread is based on an article about a method of delivering alcohol. I pointed out that I prefer a method of delivery that incorporates taste. I would drink cognac if it didn't have a hint of alcohol but tasted the same.
Your dedication to informing us of your drinking preferences is also duly noted. You've set a high benchmark, sir. Good on you.
"The USA has a long, long way to go to being a free state that respects the rights of individuals."
It's been going backwards for years and continues to do so at an accelerated pace.
Tom; Had any rum or schnapps?
tom, whippets? u can et 'em online! u can buy industrial nitrous ( for sportscars and whatnot) at a welding supply place. at the phish shows, we used to call it " hippie-crack".
Tom; nitrous can be a bad idea. Especially alone. What are you trying to do?
the problem with inhaling your alcohol is that your body has no defense against an overdose. If you drink a lot of hard booze, your body freaks out and makes you throw up in order to empty your stomach of all the booze you just drank BEFORE it can all be absorbed into your blood and kill you. When you inhale your alcohol, it all hits your bloodstream seconds after it hits your lungs. Inhale too much, your body has nothing it can do to save you, and your dead.
Once heard inhaling alcohol was popular when ladies were not allowed to drink. After dinner, the gentlemen would retire for a cigar and digestifs, a brandy, whiskey, or port. The ladies would retire to the sitting room, and play games or do needlepoint and inhale alcohol from warmed brandy snifters.
I love a good drink and a fine cigar, neither of which I have anymore, being broke. I've had exquisite brandies, fine wines, handmade tequilas, and I absolutely love a good vodka, but this is a waste of even a bad drink.
Vaporize Me
Is inhalable alcohol a good idea?
By Amanda Schaffer
Posted Wednesday, Sept. 8, 2004, at 7:40 AM ET
I have some physiology background as a paramedic, and I can comment on a few things above:
As for OD and inability to vomit, I agree. I also think people are likely not to be familiar with dosing and over do it.
As for speed of absorbtion, the lungs are designed for rapid absorbtion (much more so than the GI tract). The other notable difference is that anything absorbed through the GI tract goes immediately to the liver via the portal vein. This is called 'first pass metabolism, as the 'toxins' are processed before the can reach other body systems i.e. the brain.
As for the long term effects as in smoking, this is a concern I've had since I first heard of these systems. Your lungs are a dirtier place than you might expect (think inhaled dust, bacteria, etc) and the lungs have an extensive lymphatic system to remove foreign material. However problems can arise in cases of particles too large (asbestos) or too toxic (carcinogens in cigarette smoke) or quantities greater than can be removed (coal dust).
I am not sure anybody knows the long term effects of some of the compounds in scotch being in lung tissue.
That being said, I don't think it would be dangerous with pure ethanol, and see no reason for it to be outlawed.
@#20
Tom, A Darwin Award going to a fellow who ODed on Alcohol administered rectally, as follows: http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2007-13.html
Re. the enjoyment of spirits:
Put me down for a very dry martini made with Bombay Gin or a Mint Julep would be nice. Mojitos, which rhyme with many things, are nice while floating down the Nile on a Crocodile...
#26: Really? Wine? From the Colonies? Good Lord.
Cupcake Faerie, a long time ago, I would pick mint leaves from the garden for my grandmother's mint juleps. Favorite drink of a proud Daughter of the Confederacy in the hot Memphis summers. She would often read this book at bedtime.
O Ye Jigs & Juleps
"A lot of people in this country pooh-pooh Australian table wines. This is a pity, as many fine Australian wines appeal not only to the Australian palette, but also to the cognoscenti of Great Britain.
"Black Stump Bordeaux" is rightly praised as a peppermint flavoured Burgundy, whilst a good "Sydney Syrup" can rank with any of the world's best sugary wines.
"Chateau Bleu", too, has won many prizes; not least for its taste, and its lingering afterburn.
"Old Smokey, 1968" has been compared favourably to a Welsh claret, whilst the Australian wino society thouroughly recommends a 1970 "Coq du Rod Laver", which, believe me, has a kick on it like a mule: 8 bottles of this, and you're really finished -- at the opening of the Sydney Bridge Club, they were fishing them out of the main sewers every half an hour.
Of the sparkling wines, the most famous is "Perth Pink". This is a bottle with a message in, and the message is BEWARE!. This is not a wine for drinking -- this is a wine for laying down and avoiding.
Another good fighting wine is "Melbourne Old-and-Yellow", which is particularly heavy, and should be used only for hand-to-hand combat.
Quite the reverse is true of "Chateau Chunder", which is an Appelachian controle, specially grown for those keen on regurgitation -- a fine wine which really opens up the sluices at both ends.
Real emetic fans will also go for a "Hobart Muddy", and a prize winning "Cuiver Reserve Chateau Bottled Nuit San Wagga Wagga", which has a bouquet like an aborigine's armpit."
Monty Python FTW
A molecular disruptor device indeed.
Mostly repeating what others said, but a friend of mine who works in the medical field and does lab work said this:
Vaporizing alcohol is extremely dangerous and really should never be done. When you're drinking if you get too drunk you will vomit to prevent the absorption of more alcohol. When you vaporize that is not an option. It makes alcohol poisoning much more likely.
Also, we should probably accept it as an inevitability that on any post about alcohol, at least half of the comments will be regarding posters' preference for particular drinks - it's one of the things that makes us human*.
*unsupported claim
People are having fun!
Quick .. ban it!
#48 and #50:
Bah! Australia produces tons of wine, a good deal of it is undrinkable slosh sold cheap overseas. A lot of it is among the finest wines produced anywhere in the world.
Hey Prunk,
Sadly Barfinn is right. The statute here in Dallas is so poorly worded that you really can be arrested for a single drink - all it requires is a BAC above 0.0, and not being in your home.
We even had one case early this year where a guy here on business lost his job because he was arrested for 'Public Intoxication' while walking from the across the lobby from the hotel bar to his room ( just to be clear - his room in the *same* hotel. )
Just to be clear, no complaint had been called in. He was not loud, belligerent, or obviously intoxicated. It was a '0 tolerance' enforcement effort by the Dallas PD. The hotel, and the entire business and tourism community was up in arms about it.
They have stepped down the enforcement, but the statute is still on the books, so they can start again whenever they want. Welcome to Texas!
umm "stay out of Texas"? OK.
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