Photo of young Obama

Is this a photo of our next president? I hope so!

UPDATE: Yep, it's him. (Thanks, Florian!)

[#1 posted by pkarpenko , December 17, 2008 2:00 PM]

The whole series is on Time.com

[#2 posted by gpeare , December 17, 2008 2:06 PM]

So much cooler than this.

[#3 posted by Xeni Jardin , December 17, 2008 2:08 PM]

My god, we managed to elect a human being.

[#4 posted by Bonnie , December 17, 2008 2:10 PM]

Obama just got cooler.

[#5 posted by zuzu , December 17, 2008 2:11 PM]

Reefers.

[#6 posted by Mark Frauenfelder , December 17, 2008 2:12 PM]

And so much cooler than this.

[#7 posted by zuzu , December 17, 2008 2:18 PM]

My god, we managed to elect a human being.

Until he takes office...

I have this feeling that whoever is elected president, no matter what you promise on the campaign trail – blah, blah, blah – when you win, you go into this smoke-filled room with the twelve industrialist capitalist scum-fucks who got you in there. And you’re in this smoky room, and this little film screen comes down … and a big guy with a cigar goes, “Roll the film.” And it’s a shot of the Kennedy assassination from an angle you’ve never seen before … that looks suspiciously like it’s from the grassy knoll. And then the screen goes up and the lights come up, and they go to the new president, “Any questions?” “Er, just what my agenda is.” “First we bomb Baghdad.” “You got it…”

-- Bill Hicks

[#8 posted by Pruette , December 17, 2008 2:25 PM]

You suppose that is actually a marijuana joint? It could easily be a hand rolled cigarette as well.

[#9 posted by yri , December 17, 2008 2:25 PM]

Dude, I'm gonna be president some day!

Wait... what?

[#10 posted by Anonymous , December 17, 2008 2:37 PM]

Is that a Q-Ray Ionic Bracelet??

[#11 posted by Wingo , December 17, 2008 2:40 PM]

That photo is so full of win. The hat, the hair, the joint/cigarette, the cool-as-f**k expression.

That dude has some style, I tell ya.

Awesome!!

[#12 posted by ReggieP , December 17, 2008 2:43 PM]

h yh, h's rl cl. Wht r y gys, lk 14?

[#13 posted by gATO , December 17, 2008 2:45 PM]

ObaMarley! :D

[#14 posted by Tom Hale , December 17, 2008 2:46 PM]

You guys are weird - While it may be cool, its not the sort of thing that's normally considered responsible. He should have had those photos burned - what if they had come out during the campaign?

[#15 posted by chlitto , December 17, 2008 2:48 PM]

@zuzu: source?

[#16 posted by skeletoncityrepeater , December 17, 2008 2:50 PM]

From the whole series of shots, that appears to just be a rolled cigarette... Not to sound like a fan or anything, but all those digs would stand up today just fine. Especially the hat. I know everyone gets help on speech writing, but at least this guy doesn't need help getting dressed. I know it's not why we elected this guy (I hope) but it doesn't hurt to have a president with a positive, confident physical image.

[#17 posted by msdoran , December 17, 2008 2:51 PM]

Anyone else notice the wedding band style ring on his left hand in one of the final pictures? I wonder what that is all about?

[#18 posted by ill lich , December 17, 2008 2:51 PM]

Of course I saw the freepers going ape-poopy over this photo, naturally assuming it MUST be a "joint", despite the fact that we already know he smokes cigarettes, and nothing in this photo proves it's weed-- just a kid trying to look cool, which is really what cigarettes are all about to teenagers. . . of course, evidence of Bush's dalliances with drugs are unimportant.

[#19 posted by Tom Hale , December 17, 2008 2:53 PM]

-and why, starting today, does this website want to run a 'QuickTime' from 'Apple Inc,' Add On?

[#20 posted by OM , December 17, 2008 2:55 PM]

...Man, I always wondered what happened to Kid Creole. Wonder if the Coconuts are going to be on his cabinet?

[#21 posted by Dr.Arthur , December 17, 2008 2:56 PM]

That's one smooth motherfucker.

[#22 posted by zuzu , December 17, 2008 3:05 PM]

@zuzu: source?

Look at the eyes. ;)

(In reality it just "looks like" or "could be". Seems like many of you are way too uptight on the possibility. Besides, didn't he already admit to smoking weed, doing blow, and maybe other stuff, in his autobiography?)

[#23 posted by Antinous , December 17, 2008 3:06 PM]

He should have had those photos burned - what if they had come out during the campaign?

It would have endeared him to the center-left wing of his own party.

[#24 posted by Brainspore , December 17, 2008 3:09 PM]

@ #14:

Since when is trying to cover up past actions more "responsible" than acknowledging it? Obama came clean about his past drug use years ago, and of his own volition. That's part of what makes him a more honorable guy on the issue than the last two presidents, who did exactly the same thing but caused minor scandals by trying to hide it.

[#25 posted by gobo , December 17, 2008 3:10 PM]

@15, you should read the linked article before starting the snark machine. The photographer took those pics way back when, and stuffed them in a box. She forgot all about them until Obama started his campaign, and immediately put them into a safe-deposit box to make sure they didn't come out during the campaign as something that could hurt him in some way. Now Time has published them, because they're (a) harmless and (b) great photos.

[#26 posted by CryPixie83 , December 17, 2008 3:10 PM]

msdoran: best guess is that is his high school class ring.

[#27 posted by W. James Au , December 17, 2008 3:26 PM]

I don't think he would have made a good President, but in fairness, McCain was also a smooth motherfucker in his youth:

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/article-preview?article_id=349

On a tropical morning in 1957, the American destroyer USS Hunt was about to depart from Rio de Janeiro to complete its summer training cruise for Annapolis midshipmen, and one of them was missing. As the ship prepared to cast off, crew members peered over the side looking for their absent classmate. Then, five minutes before departure, a Mercedes sports car roared onto the pier, driven by one of Rio's most beautiful fashion models. The gull-wing doors popped up, and out from under appeared Midshipman John McCain. He kissed the model goodbye and, to the rowdy cheers of his shipmates, climbed aboard.

[#28 posted by se7a7n7 , December 17, 2008 3:36 PM]

This would make a great t-shirt

[#29 posted by elsmiley , December 17, 2008 3:41 PM]

I've been so ashamed for so many years. And now I'm so proud of my young country I could cry.

[#30 posted by Tom Hale , December 17, 2008 4:06 PM]

Off Topic:

#19- and why, starting today, does this website want to run a 'QuickTime' from 'Apple Inc,' Add On?

When I use IE 7, It wants to run the quicktime add-on, but when I use the Chrome browser, it doesn't. Maybe its because I'm using an add blocker with IE 7?

I hope this is a temporary thing, I normally use IE and I'd hate to always hear that bleep whenever I refresh or open a new BB window. I'm certainly not using a quicktime add-on - I hate quicktime.

[#31 posted by Fred Rated , December 17, 2008 4:15 PM]

I hope it doesn't come out that he had sex with an unmarried woman after that photo was taken!

[#32 posted by Teller , December 17, 2008 4:19 PM]

Jimi meet Cab.

[#33 posted by Anonymous , December 17, 2008 4:22 PM]

Having seen this photo, and reconsidered my vote for Obama, I can only say this: I regret that I have but one vote to give for my country.

[#34 posted by elsmiley , December 17, 2008 4:24 PM]

Hendrix and Calloway? I see the Cab Calloway hat (which isn't really close), but why Jimi?

[#35 posted by OM , December 17, 2008 4:26 PM]

"-and why, starting today, does this website want to run a 'QuickTime' from 'Apple Inc,' Add On?"

...One of the banner ads wants Quickslime loaded so they can foist their ads on you. Just ignore it and don't bother installing it.

[#36 posted by Lauren O , December 17, 2008 4:38 PM]

Damn.

I mean, damn.

I'm glad I voted for that guy.

[#37 posted by fyodordos , December 17, 2008 4:54 PM]

That is obviously a (pre-rolled) cigarette. You'd have to be pretty high to think that's a joint.

[#38 posted by BadKittyM , December 17, 2008 4:57 PM]

Love the photo. Even if it wasn't Obama, it's just a great picture in general. Looks a lot like a young Richard Pryor.

[#39 posted by gnoodles , December 17, 2008 5:00 PM]

Tom Hale and anyone else upset over the fact that it looks like he's smoking a joint:

Who cares if these photos had came out during the campaign? Obama talks openly about his youthful drug use in his two autobiographies. In fact, one of the ironic little mini-scandals during the campaign was that some people claimed he exaggerated his drug use in the books and actually didn't use as many as he claimed (though Hillary supporter Robert Johnson (no, not that Robert Johnson, the one who founded BET) took the other route and assumed that since he used drugs, he obviously must also have dealt drugs as well).

Photos like these are only damaging if you are trying to cover something up. If you are open and upfront about your foibles, photos like these aren't bad at all.

[#40 posted by grimc , December 17, 2008 5:00 PM]

I see the Cab Calloway hat (which isn't really close), but why Jimi?

The 'Fro. And the cool.

[#41 posted by Takuan , December 17, 2008 5:02 PM]

Well, he's making the political moves to ensure some functionality when he gets in the chair. Let's hope the compromises are just that. Having a hate-spewing fascist do the inaugural invocation probably made him throw up in his mouth a little.

[#42 posted by Tom Hale , December 17, 2008 5:05 PM]

Part of me wants a President that has never smoked weed, never dressed in such a manner, so obviously proud of the lifestyle he is promoting in those photos. - The more sensible part of me realizes that pretty much everyone under 60 has tried some sort of illegal substance - and if there was never a time in your life when you were light hearted and irresponsible, then you definitely couldn't understand the average American.

I'm betting he'd prefer that those photos weren't made public. At least I'm hoping that's how he feels.

[#43 posted by minTphresh , December 17, 2008 5:12 PM]

tom hale, until they get it fixed, which ms thinks will be "soon", do not use internet explorer. there are major security issues and massive holes that any minor hacker can utilize to their advantage. nnnng, nevermind, they say it has been "fixed". http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7787445.stm and p.s.: badass pics!

[#44 posted by ROSSINDETROIT , December 17, 2008 5:16 PM]

I have a vintage Panama hat like that but I will never in a million years be so cool no matter what I smoke.

[#45 posted by Takuan , December 17, 2008 5:17 PM]

"never dressed in such a manner", Hats?

[#46 posted by minTphresh , December 17, 2008 5:18 PM]

tom@# 42, then why the hell did u vote for bush? TWICE!?! he admitted smoking pot, and snorting cocaine, and taking LSD! and exactly WTF is the 'lifestyle' he is promoting? college? coolness? he's smoking a cigarette for chrissakes! methinks u needs to loosen up just a bit there home-slice. take a nice deep breath....aaaaah. there u go. just relax! remember: u didn't vote for him anyway!

[#47 posted by Thalia , December 17, 2008 5:18 PM]

What lifestyle is he promoting in those photos, pray tell, Mr. Tom Hale? The lifestyle of a young college student? Or is that you're morally against smokers?

[#48 posted by Tom Hale , December 17, 2008 5:20 PM]

did you ignore the last half of my post?

[#49 posted by Takuan , December 17, 2008 5:20 PM]

http://tiny.cc/Nh1s1

[#50 posted by ab5tract , December 17, 2008 5:24 PM]

@42

What "lifestyle" is it that you believe he is promoting in this photograph? Looking cool? Smoking tobacco while trying to look like one is smoking weed?

Or do you just mean the lifestyle of someone who dresses like they think the mainstream is whack?

[#51 posted by SamSam , December 17, 2008 5:31 PM]

No. Fucking. Way.

Those are such amazing photos. I *cannot* believe they are of our president.

I'm going to have to blow one up and put it on my wall. Framed.

Are there larger versions? Or will I need to use rasturbator or something..?

[#52 posted by Tom Hale , December 17, 2008 5:43 PM]

Am I the only one that notices the way he's toking the joint/cigarette - whatever it is. The way he's drawing on the joint/cigarette is exactly the way people generally do when they're smoking pot. Add that to the Panama hat and the first thing I thought of when I saw the photo is ganja.

Anyways, I'm pretty sure I like the photos as much as anyone here.

[#53 posted by minTphresh , December 17, 2008 5:57 PM]

so basically, tom, if u are going to actually 'like' something about obama, there has to be some sort of caveat? what were u doing at about 19-20? any pix?

[#54 posted by zuzu , December 17, 2008 6:01 PM]

though Hillary supporter Robert Johnson ... took the other route and assumed that since he used drugs, he obviously must also have dealt drugs as well

Shaun: [about Ed] Oh, so he's sold a bit of weed now and then. You've sold pot.
Pete: Yeah. Once. In college. To you.

[#55 posted by Tom Hale , December 17, 2008 6:07 PM]

minTphresh - I like Obama - the Man, I like the photos. I grew up in Mobile, AL - the Redneck capital of the world - joined the US Navy right after turning 20 and spent a few years in San Diego - where I spent many a night walking down Mission Beach with my friends listening to Jimi Hendrix. What do you think I was doing?

You have to remember that one day one of my coworkers (1,500 of them), might look on BB - I can only say so much.

[#56 posted by ab5tract , December 17, 2008 6:14 PM]

@Tom

FWIW, my questions come from a genuine desire to understand what motivates people to speak of "promoting" a "lifestyle". It sounds like coded xenophobia against any "lifestyle" (really _culture_) that is not of the white Christian picket fence type (also see the code word "American"). Perhaps you just meant the "lifestyle" that is getting high, but then that doesn't make sense that you would tie it to his clothing choices or the fact that he looks pleased with himself.

Basically it seems to me that using the word lifestyle is generally a 'coded concept transform' that denigrates Different cultural modalities. That is probably the reason you are getting bitten back so much here, which I didn't realize was going on when I crafted my post. If I had known I would have balanced it more to show that I thought your post held a reasonable stance when it admitted that anything other than acceptance is an unreasonable stance :)

[#57 posted by martha_macarthur , December 17, 2008 6:18 PM]

since when is an overhand hold of a cigarette automatically seen as something to do with reefer?

[#58 posted by ab5tract , December 17, 2008 6:25 PM]

@57

Does he look like he is 'dragging' that stog or 'hitting' it?

A fine point of distinction to some, perhaps, but one that any smoker can tell you makes a world of difference, especially re: others' perception of what it is you are smoking.

[#59 posted by Falcon_Seven , December 17, 2008 6:26 PM]

"Obama just got cooler."

Why? Because he did inhale?

"I *cannot* believe they are of our president."

That's right. He is your president. Enjoy.

[#60 posted by Tom Hale , December 17, 2008 6:29 PM]

I think I've made it clear enough what I think about the photos. I didn't come here for an argument. If you only read half of what I post, then you'll get an incomplete picture of my opinion, which is obviously what some of you are doing.

[#61 posted by martha_macarthur , December 17, 2008 6:38 PM]

#59 i was a pretty heavy smoker for many years, i almost always held cigarettes over hand. i don;t think anyone thought i was smoking a joint, though i usually preferred pipes and bongs for that...

regardless, i think it's pretty obvious that he's smoking a commercially rolled cigarette

also, in almost all older movies with lots of smoking scenes, dudes/cowboys/bad guys/dirty harry types/french people/etc. seem to hold their cigarettes like this, especially if it's cold or they are pulling the last drag before putting it out.

i think he was just trying to look like a badass...i think it worked

[#62 posted by vorpalsword , December 17, 2008 6:51 PM]

The hat. It boggles the mind. Never mind the joint/cigarette-- THE HAT, guys, look at it!

[#63 posted by arkizzle , December 17, 2008 7:01 PM]

This rare Obama publicity shot, just found in the archives, leaves the drug issue a lot less ambiguous.

Spare link if that one stops working due to ad-dodging...

[#64 posted by Tom Hale , December 17, 2008 7:13 PM]

Awesome work there Arkizzle. Got a link to more of your Photoshop art?

[#65 posted by elsmiley , December 17, 2008 7:25 PM]

NBC Nightly News, coming up. Or Jay.

[#66 posted by Takuan , December 17, 2008 7:26 PM]

coulda been worse
http://www.adliterate.com/archives/dr_strangelove_1ed07.jpg

[#67 posted by emmagoldman , December 17, 2008 7:30 PM]

dont get too excited thats a a machine-rolled cigarette

[#68 posted by arkizzle , December 17, 2008 7:31 PM]

Thanks Tom, I appreciate it.

I don't really have any of my serious work online, but here are a couple more 'shops I did for BoingBoing laughs.. I'm better than this, I promise :)

LOLCory

George and the Geoduck

SuperSecret BB Ritual Headwear

The Grand High Priestess of Wig

UFOCory

[#69 posted by jeshii , December 17, 2008 7:35 PM]

Tobacco or otherwise, it is still a drug either way. And that is so endearing. XD

[#70 posted by Takuan , December 17, 2008 7:40 PM]

http://www.megalink.net/~dale/candycig1.jpg

[#71 posted by zuzu , December 17, 2008 7:45 PM]

I didn't come here for an argument.

"I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition."

[#72 posted by Takuan , December 17, 2008 7:56 PM]

thanks Arkie! Had forgotten those lulz!

[#73 posted by minTphresh , December 17, 2008 7:59 PM]

tom, i promise i won't tell yer redneck friends! hey, i have redneck friends too. but, like jimi says:" i gotta let my freak flag fly"! they seem to accept that as i 'keep it real', and don't hold back. that and i work hard, they seem to respect that too. fly on, lil wing.

[#74 posted by Tom Hale , December 17, 2008 8:00 PM]

Zuzu, so close and yet so far away.

Argument Clinic

Arkizzle, I like the geoduck one best. From the look on GWB's face I'd say he was being attacked by one from behind also. The Geoduck

[#75 posted by theawesomerobot , December 17, 2008 8:08 PM]

Who the hell cares what he's smoking? goddamn what's wrong with you people?

Obama is one cooool cat.

[#76 posted by zuzu , December 17, 2008 8:15 PM]

Zuzu, so close and yet so far away. Argument Clinic

Yeah, it was a tossup. :)

[#77 posted by arkizzle , December 17, 2008 8:16 PM]

Tak :)

Tom, nice, I love that DirtyJobs guy. And George is thinking (in your best Jon-Stewart-doing-GWB voice): "Hmm, salty".

[#78 posted by zuzu , December 17, 2008 8:23 PM]

(in your best Jon-Stewart-doing-GWB voice)

"Oh Bush impression... I'll miss you the most."

[#79 posted by minTphresh , December 17, 2008 8:23 PM]

arkie FTMFW! OW!SHIT!

[#80 posted by arkizzle , December 17, 2008 8:24 PM]

It just occured to me, I think that's Jackhammer Jill feeding George..

[#81 posted by minTphresh , December 17, 2008 8:32 PM]

just need to give it a squeeze, and maybe a stroke or 2. mmmmm, geoduct.

[#82 posted by ab5tract , December 17, 2008 8:36 PM]

@Martha

"i was a pretty heavy smoker for many years, i almost always held cigarettes over hand. i don;t think anyone thought i was smoking a joint, though i usually preferred pipes and bongs for that..."

So you must not have been hitting those cigs like a jay then ;)

That is, I still maintain there is a sizable difference between 'hitting / pulling / etc' and 'puffing / dragging / etc' in terms of how the two approaces look to third parties. Thus, B could have framed his face to appeal to the possibility that he was smoking cannabis

"regardless, i think it's pretty obvious that he's smoking a commercially rolled cigarette"

Yup. My first thought: "It can't be." Clicking on the thumbnail to see it up close proved it. If you are really wondering, ask yourself if you've ever seen a joint with an end that isn't tapered. Rolling machine joints don't count because you wouldn't have tried that twice, nor do the government pictures from the faulty monkey test era that you may have seen in textbooks or DARE propaganda. If you have never seen a joint, return 0.

"i think he was just trying to look like a badass...i think it worked"

Couldn't agree more. Looking at it with the cowboy theme in mind it could very well be a lingering drag for dramatic effect, thanks for pointing this out. I wonder if he thought it all the way through to the ambiguities when the photographer snapped that one?

[#83 posted by arkizzle , December 17, 2008 8:40 PM]

mmmm salty..

[#84 posted by Takuan , December 17, 2008 9:26 PM]

some photos are clear
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/4/2/bush_cheney_mapplethorpe.jpg

[#85 posted by arkizzle , December 17, 2008 9:34 PM]

Great! If only they'd matched a hat onto Cheney's head, like in his shadow..
Blue Oyster Bar goodness :)

[#86 posted by buddy66 , December 17, 2008 9:59 PM]

since when is an overhand hold of a cigarette automatically seen as something to do with reefer?

Because I've been holding them that way for over fifty years.

MSDORAN, any family connection with the aviatrix "Miss Doran"?

[#87 posted by arkizzle , December 17, 2008 11:02 PM]

Buddy, you mis-parsed. It's MicroSoft Doran, MSDOS's cousin.

I'm joking by the way, just in case that's too cryptic or lame to be funny

[#88 posted by Takuan , December 17, 2008 11:12 PM]

gnite
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=hrPEM2qc-j8

[#89 posted by arkizzle , December 18, 2008 12:04 AM]

Yeh, it's been a productive day :)
And Leonard! A fabulous Canadian legend.

'night

[#90 posted by mikesum32 , December 18, 2008 12:16 AM]

Mambo #5 !

[#91 posted by JuanTwoThree , December 18, 2008 1:14 AM]

Image search for Bogart and you'll see that most of the time he's got a cigarette in or near his mouth he's holding it in that "keep the rain off it" way. All those photos can't be joints. Or can they? Maybe he doesn't want to pass them on.

My grandfather always shielded his cigarettes that way, or more so, because of snipers, he said.

Having said that, Obama does look fairly blitzed in the photo.

[#92 posted by imipak , December 18, 2008 3:41 AM]

Surprised no-one's pointed this out before, but the "reversed ciggie" smoking style (lit end cupped in the palm, filter end outwards) is the normal way fags are smoked... in Russia (and previously-affiliated Eastern European countries.) It shields the lit end from the icy chill of the winds coming off the steppe or something. IMHO it looks waaaay cooler than the "western" style. I even affected that style myself as a wannabe cool student, for about ten minutes :) Not that it makes a blind bit of difference to anything, except perhaps to make Obama look even cooler than he looked before.

[#93 posted by SamSam , December 18, 2008 5:45 AM]

Imipak: I *knew* Obama was a Communist! No wonder these photos were kept under lock and key during the election. Heck, this is grounds for a re-vote!

[#94 posted by BastardNamban , December 18, 2008 8:16 AM]

Damn, I'm glad I voted for him too- but for what he stands for (if he follows through). This is just icing on the cake.

Besides, if this WAS weed, I'd be all for it. I want a president high at least once a week, the level of introspection would be good for preventing all the stupid crap our president NOW has caused.

Light up in the oval office, and get Americans (who have overwhelmingly admitted to trying weed) who are are so damn uptight to chill the hell out, stop fearing every damn disaster/terrorist contingency as a basis for daily life, and maybe people would start enjoying life in this country on a level like Spain.

[#95 posted by Rezpect , December 18, 2008 8:21 AM]

I love him.

[#96 posted by Fred Rated , December 18, 2008 9:13 AM]

Is it too late to vote for president Tom Hale?

Untouched by moral decay or the indiscretions of youth. President Hale: "I saved my virginity for YOU, America!"

[#97 posted by Ned613 , December 18, 2008 9:22 AM]

The photographer Lisa Jack must feel like she found a winning lottery ticket in her sofa.

[#98 posted by Tom Hale , December 18, 2008 9:52 AM]

@ Fred Rated #96 - Huh? Where'd that come from? You must be confusing me with someone else.

[#99 posted by Raikus , December 18, 2008 11:47 AM]

And the caption photos are starting. Hop on the band wagon!

[#100 posted by Chris L , December 18, 2008 11:51 AM]

I think he's just being goofy for the camera. I'd bet he didn't smoke a whole lot of weed. The word he used in his autobio was "experiment," correct? Barack just has this "good kid" vibe about him, that just seems to radiate every time he admits to some fault. He tried weed in college because practically everybody tries weed college. I doubt it was more than a few times. He just doesn't seem the type to really be crazy about it. The only reason he's still smoking is because cigarettes are addicting.

Clinton probably toked much more and his claims that he didn't inhale only make it so much more obvious that he did.

btw, I don't get the whole inauguration scandal at all. I mean, it's Rick Warren for godsakes. The diet coke of modern evangelism. You'd think Fred Phelps had given the invocation with the way some people are reacting.

[#101 posted by Anonymous , December 18, 2008 12:50 PM]

So he smoked cigarettes...so what...I know of Presidents that did worse, like owned slaves and had babies with them!

[#102 posted by Anonymous , December 18, 2008 2:11 PM]

Is it bad that I swooned?

[#103 posted by arkizzle , December 18, 2008 3:20 PM]

"So he smoked cigarettes.."

I fear you missed the point.