Palin on Science (yes, we *do* troll 4chan so you don't have to)

Buzzfeed points to "leaked promotional material from Sarah Palin's upcoming ad council campaign." Don't miss the video referenced there, either. (Thanks Richard Metzger, via)

[#1 posted by obliv1on , October 22, 2008 9:07 PM]

Mk n mstk, Pln nd th ppl lk hr r thrt t ll f s.

http://tbrktlgh.cm/ctgry/pltcs/

[#2 posted by Antinous , October 22, 2008 9:26 PM]

obliv1on,

Final warning. You can link to your blog on your profile page.

[#3 posted by Ghede , October 22, 2008 9:32 PM]

Awesome. Disemvoweling links is both effective and hilarious. Image is broken for me.

[#4 posted by Antinous , October 22, 2008 9:38 PM]

Ghede,

You seem to be conflating two phenomena.

[#5 posted by Tom Hale , October 22, 2008 9:41 PM]

Bull, Palin is as innocent and pure as the driven snow. She's a cute sweet innocent thrust into a much higher level of politics than she seems capable of dealing with. OK, she's not dealing with the media well, but so far she purports to support the Republican agenda. She's all I got, so sadly, I will support her.

[#6 posted by Phikus , October 22, 2008 9:55 PM]

TOM HALE: Man, you are determined to ride that bomb all the way down into oblivion like Slim Pickins in a Kubrick film. We'll be here when you decide to try objective reality. It's not as fun as your widdle cuddly bunnyland you've got going on over there, but the rest of us are living here, so we'd appreciate you not lobbing your turds on us. Thanks.

[#7 posted by Pip_R_Lagenta , October 22, 2008 9:57 PM]

Science, yes. Marriage, no!

[#8 posted by tdmg , October 22, 2008 9:59 PM]

I do not see the controversy here. I would hope that everyone (even those who are homophobic) would agree that all Americans, regardless of their sexual preferences, should have access to science.

The statement was clearly taken out of context to make it seem like Palin was denying science to straight people. You don't need a spin doctor to tell you that.

[#9 posted by David Carroll , October 22, 2008 10:02 PM]

Xeni WTF?

A couple of days ago you used the "R" word and today you indirectly use the "F" word. What's next: "N"?

[#10 posted by Tom Hale , October 22, 2008 10:03 PM]

Phikus, wait, I thought I was giving equal support to both sides in that post. Maybe I was being too subtle, which isn't usually a problem with most of our readers.

[#11 posted by Phikus , October 22, 2008 10:04 PM]

Click the link referenced to see the image I think was intended.

Here's a non-embedded of the linked video:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qCzbNkyXO50

[#12 posted by FloydT , October 22, 2008 10:12 PM]

Stay classy.

[#13 posted by Phikus , October 22, 2008 10:14 PM]

TOM HALE: Just because you admit she is out of her depth doesn't make your statement balanced. You basically say you don't care how ill equipped she is to perform possibly the most important job on the planet not to have a chimp doing (hopefully any longer) just because she's so "cute and innocent." Sorry, but that doesn't pass for thinking in my book.

[#14 posted by Phikus , October 22, 2008 10:24 PM]

TOM HALE: I looked for irony in your tone and found none, especially based on 100% of your previous posting history. You are not a subtle guy, Tom. If you were trying to be, you're doin' it wrong.

[#15 posted by zuzu , October 22, 2008 10:38 PM]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qCzbNkyXO50

Man, if my kid ever turned Christian, I'd disown her. ;)

It's not being a Christian that's so bad, but committing those Christian acts... rising from the dead, it goes against the natural order! :p

A couple of days ago you used the "R" word and today you indirectly use the "F" word. What's next: "N"?

Stop empowering those words to have their hurtful power by avoiding them. To paraphrase George Carlin, there are no bad words, only bad thoughts or bad intentions.

[#16 posted by Doran , October 22, 2008 10:40 PM]

What? There's no T-Shirt yet?

[#17 posted by Phikus , October 22, 2008 10:42 PM]

Xeni: Thanks for fixing the image. I think it's hilarious! It's not the words used, but how.

[#18 posted by Antinous , October 22, 2008 10:53 PM]

I'm voting for the party that starts a Scientists for Faggots campaign, because some of them are pretty cute, especially those long-haired ones.

[#19 posted by Xeni "Hussein" Jardin , October 22, 2008 10:55 PM]

What was the "R" word, "Republican"?

[#20 posted by demidan , October 22, 2008 11:01 PM]

Micheal Palin YES! Sarah Palin fook sake no! Unless I can get a pet raptor to take on long walks on the beach...

[#21 posted by Takuan , October 22, 2008 11:33 PM]

need more than that if you're making a scientist-king.

[#22 posted by Lauren O , October 22, 2008 11:49 PM]

David Carroll, I don't generally like those words either, but this is clearly an ironic usage. And, sadly, it accurately portrays how Palin thinks.

[#23 posted by NefariousWheel , October 22, 2008 11:53 PM]

Thanks heaps, Buzzfeed. You owe me a new keyboard. And a bowl of soup.

[#24 posted by Sister Y , October 23, 2008 12:11 AM]

I agree - Sarah Palin should never have said that!

[#25 posted by Faustus , October 23, 2008 2:48 AM]

David Carroll, so whilst you agree that people can use any words they want, you also believe that they shouldn't? How rare.

Also I have no problem with the word retarded, it's a perfectly functional word.

[#26 posted by David Carroll , October 23, 2008 3:52 AM]

Faustus #26

Read my post again. I said certain highly incendiary words should be used with caution. I also did not tell Xeni or anyone else not to use any word. I merely expressed my displeasure that she did.

Ms. Jardin, and everyone else on this planet (and the guys on the ISS) have the inalienable right to say or write whatever they want too. I have the right to object.

Now is that all cleared up Faustus?

[#27 posted by nerak , October 23, 2008 5:05 AM]

I am going to have to go with Zuzu on this one, George Carlin says it best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HAGc521SAo&feature=related

If you want to get in a huff about words, what about Sarah Palin's use of the word "Tolerant" in her VP debate? She's "tolerant" of gays. It's like saying, "y'know, i really cant stand you sinners, but since I'm in a public office I have to."

[#28 posted by xibalba , October 23, 2008 5:17 AM]

The F word, in this case, is used as shorthand for Palin's impatience with and/or dismissal of the gay community. It's meant to be ironic. If there were a word that communicated the same sentiment about science (egghead?) that would have been used as well.

[#29 posted by Satan Ate My Ears , October 23, 2008 5:26 AM]

David Carroll, never write "N" again. To help me explain why, Here's Louis C.K.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqwj--wGEgY

[#30 posted by minTphresh , October 23, 2008 5:42 AM]

tom hale, sarah palin pays LIP SERVICE to your precious 'republican agenda'. she has every bit as much intent to make it policy as the current resident of the white house. how the fuck can anyone besides paris hilton spend $150,000 on clothes in less than a month? is that part of the agenda?

[#31 posted by freshyill , October 23, 2008 5:58 AM]

@TOM HALE: WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?

[#32 posted by Cowicide , October 23, 2008 6:21 AM]

AMERICA!! FUCK, YEAH!!!

[#33 posted by jordy1971 , October 23, 2008 6:58 AM]

McCain should have picked Xeni even if her middle name is Hussein. And the back-and-forth comments on whether or not this-or-that word is offensive are nearly as funny as the pic. Nearly, but not quite.

[#34 posted by minTphresh , October 23, 2008 9:08 AM]

we should check TOMHALE for ANTI-AMERICAN SENTIMENTS!

[#35 posted by David Carroll , October 23, 2008 10:26 AM]

The thing that really ticks me off about Palin's clothes budget is: Wouldn't she and her whole family have nice duds that she bought with Alaska taxpayer's money? I mean doesn't the Governor and her entire family need dress clothes to go to events all over the country that they were not actually invited too?

Palin asking if they could come, or just showing up without notice does not count.

Yeesh! I have officially had it with this woman. For my own sanity I have promised myself that I will change the channel or skip any article involving her and her senile running mate.

The Daily Show is exempt of course!

[#36 posted by Phikus , October 23, 2008 10:35 AM]

...if you know they way to Fluffybunnyland.

[#37 posted by Phikus , October 23, 2008 11:32 AM]

DAVID CARROLL: In true totalitarian dictatorial fashion (yes, pun intended) she expects the taxpayers to totally subsidize every aspect of her family's life, whether traveling, staying at home, or shopping!

What use is holding or vying for a position of power unless you can use it to fire people you don't like, or people who won't fire people you don't like, or as an excuse for a massive shopping spree, right? People who think otherwise are UN-AMERICAN and should be locked up in Gitmo, any of our lovely privatized prisons, or the fun new FEMA camps we have set aside for "immigration" uses, doncha know?

[#38 posted by Phikus , October 23, 2008 11:40 AM]

My comment @36 was intended to be a response to MINTY@34.

And speaking of fluffy cute animals...

[#39 posted by A New Challenger , October 23, 2008 12:39 PM]

The only objection I have to the image is that the person who made it is doing it wrong.

(Warning: Link may not be safe for work.)

[#40 posted by KZM , October 23, 2008 1:27 PM]

Xeni! Rules numbers #1 and #2!

Plus no girls on the internets.

[#41 posted by buddy66 , October 23, 2008 3:58 PM]

I just realized TOM HALE doesn't exist. He's a cute self-effacing mask created by some droll dude or dudette who is seeing how adroitly (and for how long) he, or she, can walk the tightrope of credulity. Nobody real could be that painfully obtuse.

Look, he just fell off: Palin is as innocent and pure as the driven snow. She's a cute sweet innocent... He's mocking.

Actually, I'm the one who's obtuse.

[#42 posted by Modusoperandi , October 23, 2008 5:53 PM]

Words have power. Sometimes using a loaded word is the best use of the word. While I would never use the "N" word in real life, and I generally avoid swearing, I have written things that use words like that specifically to make a point and/or to punch up a point. They're only bad words when they're used pointlessly, dagnabit.
"We" aren't the only ones to do this. The Partial-BBirth Abortion Ban Act is called that for a reason, rather than the more correct "IDX Ban Act".
In short, using loaded words is a convenient shorthand to provoke an emotional response. Remember, kids, don't use it for evil.

[#43 posted by Modusoperandi , October 23, 2008 6:54 PM]

That's too many B's!

[#44 posted by Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator , October 23, 2008 7:13 PM]

Phikus, you've misread Tom Hale. His intentions aren't entirely transparent, but your reactions don't fit the words he posted.`

FloydT @12: You too, guy.

Zuzu @15, don't do it. It'll just feed straight into the standard narrative tropes.

Antinous @18: Dang, they're pretty.

ModusOperandi @42: The N and C words are so strongly discouraged on Boing Boing that it's perilous for non-Boingers to use them. The chief reason for this is non-theoretical: those words have the power to make any thread collapse down into dreck. The topic doesn't matter. Neither does the intelligence with which they're used. There are simply too many people out there who take their appearance as permission to wallow.

The F word isn't quite in that same category, but it's close.

[#45 posted by Takuan , October 23, 2008 7:29 PM]

flanges flanges flanges FLANGES FLANGES!!! (flange)

[#46 posted by Xeni "Hussein" Jardin , October 23, 2008 7:34 PM]

Takuan, stop using the F-word so gratuitously there.

[#47 posted by Takuan , October 23, 2008 7:40 PM]

...sorry.. (mops off sweat).... flash back to that souk in Morocco... ohh the snow leopard skin opium trampoline.... *** arrrrghhhh

[#48 posted by Itsumishi , October 23, 2008 7:50 PM]

Haha. Those Chaser dudes rule. I hadn't seen that video before. Hilarious.

For anyone that doesn't know 'chaser dudes' are the comedy team from the Aussie show, "The Chasers War on Everything"

Highly worth finding a copy.

[#49 posted by Modusoperandi , October 23, 2008 8:44 PM]

Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator
What's the problem with North Carolina?

"The chief reason for this is non-theoretical: those words have the power to make any thread collapse down into dreck."
Like "boobies"?

[#50 posted by Phikus , October 23, 2008 8:45 PM]

Teresa@44: What exactly do you interpret his intentions were? Please explain.

I'll grant that my reaction is based on this being another in a series of posts by Mr. Hale and not as stand-alone, but I'm getting a little tired of the single-minded Palin adulation. Do you think anyone could post messianic Obama worship here in all seriousness without a harsh reaction from several McCain camp commenters?

[#51 posted by Modusoperandi , October 23, 2008 8:46 PM]

That should be:
"N and C! What's the problem with North Carolina?"

I don't use preview. I'm a maverick. Or, rather, I used to be, back when the word actually meant something.

[#52 posted by Modusoperandi , October 23, 2008 8:50 PM]

Phikus "...without a harsh reaction from several McCain camp commenters..."
I went to McCain camp one year. By mid-August we ran out of marshmallows. It was a looong summer.

[#53 posted by Phikus , October 23, 2008 9:07 PM]

MODUS@52: I can imagine. After that what did you roast? Obama?

[#54 posted by Modusoperandi , October 23, 2008 9:13 PM]

I can't remember what we roasted. For the most part memories are much improved, I find, when you can't remember what they are.