Mickey Mouse tries different ways to commit suicide
In the comments section to the Monkey Doodle comic book ad, Scottfree says:
UPDATE: Cory blogged this in 2003.I stumbled across these creepy disney comics the other day. The last half dozen or so revolve around Mickey trying to off himself after Minney dumps him for his brother. I wouldn't know how to go about verifying their authenticity...
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They were possibly the censored Mickey Mouse strips which are non-canonical Disney. The worst comic book trade I ever made was a mint Amazing Spider-Man #300 for The Uncensored Mouse Vol.1 from Eternity Comics, which included strips like this. But Amazing Spider-Man had Macfarlane doing Venom! What a fool I was!
I remember seeing these in a Mickey Mouse anthology. They're probably authentic.
for some reason this reminded me of a bad joke...
Mickey Mouse is in court to divorce Minnie.
"But Judge, I didn't say she was crazy, I said she was f***in' Goofy"
Oldie but a goodie ;)
http://www.boingboing.net/2003/07/17/mickey-mouse-offs-hi.html
I win!! Yea!!
I'd guess they're authentic. The "Goodbye cruel world" trope was pretty common the uncensored cartoons I was watching as a kid in the late sixties and early seventies. I distinctly remember a cartoon that ends with Yosemite Sam and Bugs Bunny playing Russian Roulette (Google tells me it's Ballot Box Bunny. That world has moved on.
Still, shotgun-suicide Mickey does seem kind of, um, extreme.
I love how he's plugging his finger in his ear, because he doesn't want to damage his hearing while he blows his brains all over the apartment. Mickey is too funny!
What is that painting on Mickey's wall? The Death Star?
http://clipart.peirceinternet.com/png/eightball.png
Has anyone seen the wretched things that Disney does with Mickey these days?
He's been CGIed and lobotomized and neotonized and put him on a toddler-friendly Disney channel show.
I could think of some other "ized"
What's interesting is that the contraption is elaborate enough to look like it'd really work. I wonder what happened to the cartoon artist.
Yeah definitely 100% authentic. I have an anthology that contains that very comic.
I agree this is legit too. Suicide references would be unheard of now but not back then. I actually saw this classic WB cartoon as a kid more than once, aired like it was just any other cartoon; certainly no "Intended for the Adult Collector and May Not Be Suitable for Children" warning:
"Porky’s Romance": when Porky is spurned by his love Petunia Pig, he tries to commit suicide by hanging himself (of course he fails, knocks himself on the head and gets a glimpse of a not-so-rosy future with Petunia).
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Other suicide reference in a popular cartoon, I recall actually seeing myself:
Flintstones: After it appears the adoption of Bam-Bam will be reversed in court, a distraught Barney Rubble tries to off himself by tying a boulder to his leg which he plans to push off the bridge he's standing on. Instead Fred tells him in time the good news that Barney and Betty will keep Bam-Bam after all. Long story short, Fred falls off the bridge instead. Hilarity ensues, sort of, in hindsight... :-\
And did any teens "off" themselves due to reading these comics? Does anyone have any verifiable instances of such occurrences?
God I hope so.
This comic is fascinating stuff. The Slicker, with his city slicker ways, steals Minnie from Mickey. At first he goes in to bust the guy up but is dissuaded from violence by a collar-wearing horse, named Horsecollar. Then he gets despondent and reaches for the gun on the wall, but is dissuaded from shotgun-suicide by a cuckoo clock.
Reasonably enough, he decides to jump off of a bridge instead, but accidentally lands on a boat. The captain accuses him of being a stowaway and says "well, you'll get no publicity out of this trip" and throws him into the water.
"Publicity?" Were stowaways getting publicity in 1930?
Is Mickey Mouse aimed at teens?
maybe
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Why not just a simple, normal gun...
or perhaps
http://stamp-search.com/images/lib0212sh2stowaway6.jpg
Let's not forget the time that Bugs Bunny successfully convinced a dog to kill himself. The dog becomes an angel, of course.
Ah, ok. Now I gettit. Thanks Tak.
maybe
http://www.evl.uic.edu/pape/Marx/images/MonkeyBusiness1.jpg
de nada, us dwellers of the stygian abyss have to stick together - if only because of the mucous
As #22 pointed out, overt references to suicide were pretty present in Bugs Bunny cartoons through the 1940s. I wouldn't find it too startling that a Mickey cartoon from the same-ish period wouldn't have something like that.
All of the Disney comics have a much more wierdly plotty quality to them that the cartoons never had--lots of intricate plots, extra characters, wierd plot devices, and so forth. Particularly in Carl Barks.
I wonder if this is Barks's work...It looks like the lettering style he used.
No, not Barks. It's Floyd Gottfredson's work.
I grew up in India in the 80's with tons of old Disney cartoons on the TV, and distinctly remember such scenarios. All of us kids used to have a good laugh - it was funny because of it's absurdity. Of course, here in the US that innocence is probably lost for good. Just made me wonder if this is just a throwback to the times when life here used to be more 'regular'!
I grew up in India in the 80's with tons of old Disney cartoons on the TV, and distinctly remember such scenarios. All of us kids used to have a good laugh - it was funny because of it's absurdity. Of course, here in the US that innocence is probably lost for good. Just made me wonder if this is just a throwback to the times when life here used to be more 'regular'!
Dang, I wish he did himself in. I always hated that rat. I love the fact that my 3 year old daughter calls him Mickey Rat.
His brother? I always thought it was his cousin.
I could swear Donald still gets that desperate- but I haven't been up to date on DD since my sister got teenaged. Apparently it's not cool anymore after you're thirteen.
If memory serves from my stint in the Boulder Bureau, this is from the collective "Air Pirates" comic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Pirates
One of the original creative commons fights.
Gordon Cole
And a link to purchase the book about Dan O'Neill's trial here: http://blog.stayfreemagazine.org/2005/08/the_pirates_and.html
Or Dan speaking about it in "Comic Book Confidential": http://www.amazon.com/Comic-Book-Confidential-Lynda-Barry/dp/B000067IY3
Oh! I think I've heard about Air Pirates!
And this, right around the same time that Dorfman and Matellart's "How to Read Donald Duck," which documents the wierd involvement of Disney comics in propagandizing Chile up to the Pinochet coup. Strange times.
I'm pretty sure these aren't Air Pirates strips. For one, they're "signed" by Walt Disney (although probably drawn by Floyd Gottfredson). For another, there are no drug references or explicit sex. Those Air Pirates were not nearly so subtle...
Yeah, Trevor is right, it's Floyd Gottfriedson.
The following at least gives some artistic context, if you can track down the actual work:
http://ob7.free.fr/mice_and_ducks/mmd/mdayl.html
I wonder when precisely suicide stopped being funny?
when it happened to me
Age 14?
looks like a tiajuana bible to me.
I think I have an italian translation of these strips at home; probably from a reprint from the 70s. I look for them these evening at home, and post the scans if can find them.
Looks like the links are down - Has Disney come on heavy?
Why didn't Mickey try to off himself with a mouse trap?
Guys, there's no conspiracy here. These comic strips are fairly well-known despite having never been reprinted.
The strips are legit, they are by Floyd Gottfredson and appeared in newspapers in the 1930's. Disney's rules for the characters were not so strict then, and Mickey was shown in all kinds of situations that today's Disney would not consider "kid-friendly."
It's not from a Tijuana Bible, or the Air Pirates. These strips would have been run in "The Uncensored Mouse" comic book has Disney not sued and shut it down after the second issue.
Speaking of suicide, has anybody else noticed that the hot new way to off yourself in Japan is mixing bleach and ammonia in an enclosed space? There's been at least one a day for the last month in the news. Hydrogen sulfide is the new train jump.
I that that simply evolved free chlorine? Isn't that how the Musky killer got it?
"Household bleach has a chemical formula of NaOCl - that is, one atom each of sodium, oxygen, and chlorine. Its chemical name, for the curious, is sodium hypochlorite. Ammonia has a chemical formula of NH3, that is, one atom of nitrogen and three atoms of hydrogen. When these two compounds are combined, the following reaction takes place:
2(parts)NaOCl + 2NH3 --> 2NaONH3 + Cl2.
Do you see that Cl2 on the right hand side there? This means one part chlorine gas, made up of diatomic (two atom) molecules. It also means that the chlorine gas has been liberated from the bleach, and is quite capable of causing you harm when inhaled!"
I think if you want hydrogen sulfide you have to mix iron and sulphur, react them to iron sulphide and then pour sulphuric acid over it to evolve hydrogen sulphide gas. Or you could just fart a lot.
Hmmm. You're right. I never paid attention to the details. Mainichi keeps referring to hydrogen sulfide being released by mixing bleach with another cleaning agent. I just assumed ammonia because that's how I've always gotten rid of...Oh, never mind.
hey now there's an idea: execution of the condemned by the whole community; a fishbowl helmet with a hundred hoses, everybody finishes a keg of beer and a barrel of hot wings..... didn't I see that on Jackass?
I love culture NOT SUITABLE FOR HUMANS
http://www.noob.us/humor/jackass-fart-mask-video/
mm,let me think, could a very caustic toilet or drain cleaner react with bleach....
Bleach + Ammonia = Massive scarring of the lungs + Brain damage.
You only die if you're lucky.
isn't phosgene an easy synthesis?
isn't phosgene an easy synthesis? bleach and acteone to get chloroform, from there to phosgene,that a war gas precusor.. ah kids these days, no ambition