Parts With Appeal - new Giclée print from Coop

I don't think that they ever go out of style. Although it would be totally okay with me if BB also adopted another favorite artist who's obsessed with pornographically proportioned, semi-nude men. I'm just sayin'...

Say, isn't that voluptuous devil woman the star of this famous work of literature?

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#6 posted by dculberson , April 17, 2008 6:50 PM

Benschomatic, this has been a popular theme since way before 1996.

Many themes survive decades or centuries. I would argue this is just a continuation of the formerly thriving chariots'n'harlots genre that swept Rome at the beginning of the last millennium. I bet one of those t-shirts would fetch a mint right now.

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#7 posted by Lilorfnannie , April 17, 2008 7:01 PM

"Lovely" if you're a porn star, maybe.

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#8 posted by Takuan , April 17, 2008 7:06 PM

clearly the byblow of an unholy union

http://local.aaca.org/antelope/images/Photo%20Gallery/1956%20Chevrolet%20Bel%20Air%20Sports%20Sedan.jpg

http://www.vintageairstreamer.com/otherinterests/metropolitan/images/minnie/kelsey_minnie_stella_600x450.jpg

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#9 posted by Automatt , April 17, 2008 7:10 PM

Classy.

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#10 posted by HeartlessMachine , April 17, 2008 7:35 PM

I'm taking the time out of my day to criticize things, too!

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#11 posted by jamesgyre

, April 17, 2008 9:23 PM

i like erotic art of a highbrow and lowbrow nature, and while i don't drive, i can appreciate interesting cars, but...

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#12 posted by echolocate chocolate , April 17, 2008 11:02 PM

The way it has four equally-sized square elements makes me think it would look badass printed on a cookie tin. It would be a most rockin' cookie tin.

#10 yeah, seriously.

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#13 posted by steve rimjobs , April 18, 2008 2:45 AM

Change 'lovely' for 'hideous' and we agree.

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#14 posted by Optic , April 18, 2008 5:21 AM

'v bn sng th frqncy f drct prdct plgs ncrs rcntly. Btwn th nkjt prnts nd th hds, n mght vn thnk tht th "Bng Bng Mn Pg Prdct Psh" s n ndvrtsd prvt dvrtsng ptn. wndr hw mch t csts!

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#15 posted by Anonymous , April 18, 2008 5:54 AM

Lords of Acid?

http://www.amazon.com/Voodoo-U-Lords-Acid/dp/B000000UMN/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1208523020&sr=8-3

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#16 posted by Anonymous , April 18, 2008 6:15 AM

Coop is awesome. Never disappointed to see new things from him.

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#17 posted by Mark Frauenfelder

, April 18, 2008 7:16 AM

Optic: your comment is offensive. We posted this print because we love Coop's work. Also, he has given us hundreds of wonderful site suggestions that we've postd to BB over the years, including the "least wanted music" post yesterday. He is a "fifth Boinger."

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#18 posted by Anonymous , April 18, 2008 7:27 AM

I'd put this theme of devil ladies well before 1996. Cover art for Lords of Acid album Voodoo U circa 1994, uh, totally NSFW.

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#19 posted by Viscount Haldane , April 18, 2008 8:00 AM

"Giclée" is one of those terms that irritates me to no end. It's just a borderline unethical way to deceive people who don't know that it means inkjet print. I make a point not to buy art from people who use the term.

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#20 posted by proscriptus , April 18, 2008 8:11 AM

Yes, Giclée sucks, Coop doesn't, and this is a print, that is, a reproduction of an artwork. The original is, you know, kinda large.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/coop666/503967567/

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#21 posted by Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator

, April 18, 2008 10:35 AM

Oh look, it's the giclée vs. inkjet argument again.

Here's the answer (again):

Granted, "giclée" is sometimes wrongly used (with or without intent to deceive) to describe plain old inkjet prints. However, that doesn't mean that "giclée" and "ink jet print" mean the same thing, or that the printing processes are the same.

In Coop's case, they really are giclée prints.

Mark Frauenfelder @15: "Optic" has posted two comments to Boing Boing. The previous one, posted last December in the comment thread of an entry about one of Coop's prints, says "Hw mch ds bngbng dvrtrl cst? s thr rtcrd?"

I don't know whether his his beef is with you, Coop, or giclée prints. I suspect it's all of the above, since he only appears when the three elements are in conjunction. Aside from that, he's not our problem.

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#22 posted by Antinous , April 18, 2008 10:39 AM

Stop saying 'tempera'!!!! It's just egg and colored dirt!!!!!

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#23 posted by Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator

, April 18, 2008 10:44 AM

Also, those things you're fraudulently calling lithographs? They're really just printed on paper.

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#24 posted by Patrick Nielsen Hayden

, April 18, 2008 10:52 AM

With rocks!

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#25 posted by Anonymous , April 18, 2008 12:10 PM

Hey, this is Coop, the actual artist.

Just as an aside to "anonymous" #15 & #18... you do know that I also created the Lords Of Acid Voodoo U cover art, right? Because accusing me of ripping myself off would kinda make you look like, uh, an idiot.

In fact, if anyone bothered to read about the painting this print comes from, they would see that the devil girl imagery is a very self-conscious nod to their ubiquity in pop culture over the last fifteen years. From the press kit for the exhibition:

"With a nod to both the scale and the bold iconography used by James Rosenquist, Coop appropriates the very pop-culture imagery that he has created (women, devils, cars, etc.) by dissecting, fragmenting and examining their parts. By reassembling these crucial elements, and therefore re-contextualizing, he has transformed them into a new whole. As these images have been reconfigured, Coop found it necessary to produce them in something not recently associated with his work; the classic medium of painting. Using acrylics, these works contain a deep texture that details the creative hand when viewing them closely. But as the viewer steps back and experiences the large work as a constructed whole, the acrylic lines display a cohesive sensibility."

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#26 posted by Mark Frauenfelder

, April 18, 2008 12:49 PM

The Lords of Acid cover was illustrated by Coop.

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#27 posted by Davin

, April 18, 2008 1:11 PM

Man, people are hating on Coop and giclees pretty hard. I thought BoingBoing was a place of LOVE. I like Coop's work, but don't really dig this recent one. Something about the typeface elements makes it seem cluttered.

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#28 posted by Xeni Jardin

, April 18, 2008 1:19 PM

Well I fucking love it, and I'm a big fan of Coop's work, and that's why I posted it. And if you can't dig it, baby the space bar is your friend. There are always many, many other posts on this blog to choose from.

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#29 posted by Jeff , April 18, 2008 1:28 PM

Lords of Acid. What a fun group. The kind of thing I like to play when my mother comes over.

Xeni, you add a level of spice to this blog that it can't do without. Brava.

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#30 posted by hohum , April 18, 2008 2:16 PM

The Voodoo U cover art was what got me interested in Coop's work in the first place... The cover was awesome and it didn't take much effort to figure out who created it... Anyway, Coop's stuff still rocks, and I hope BB keeps on covering it...

I think my new favorite hobby is reading disemvoweled posts....

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#31 posted by benschomatic , April 18, 2008 4:13 PM

Mrk:
Wht ws ffnsv bt ptc's pst? nd wht's wth th dsmvwlng? Why nt jst dlt psts tht rn't t yr lkng? nd why lv yr rspns t pst tht y'v mnpltd nd s nw hrdly lgbl.

"Ths stff's bn rnd lngr thn 1996" flks:
Yh, knw. sd ths styl ws mldly ntrstng rnd tht tm. t s my pnn tht thr s mch mr gng n n th vsl rts wrld f 2008 tht shld grnr ppl's ttntn. (Lk th nw Bjrk vd dn by ncyclpd Pctr fr xmpl).

Cp:
ftr rdng yr rtst's sttmnt, cn sy tht thnk wrds lk "pprprt", "r-cntxtlz", "dssct", nd "rcnfgr" r ll jst fncy rtwrld trms tht r knd f synnyms wth, "'m bsclly dng wht 'v lwys dn, jst n dffrnt mdm." thnk y'r n ncrdbly tlntd rtst, bt yr sbjct mttr jst dsn't ppl t m s mch s t dd bck n my crfr, grss-smkng twnts. Myb 'm jst gttng ld. Myb thnk y'r cpbl f smthng grtr.

Xn:
Why hv cmmnts sctn f y'r nt lkng fr dscssn? D w rlly hv t rll n pst thngs wtht cmmnt f w'r nt httng ths sctn jst t shn smn's knb? ls, th spc br my b yr frnd, bt rd Lgtch ms wth scrllwhl (nd 'm n Mc! Gsp!)

ll:
Ths my b nw prnt, bt th pntng ws dn n 2004.

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#32 posted by rtip , April 18, 2008 4:40 PM

Hey benschomatic: trying to prove yourself a frustrated, art-literate contrarian? Congratulations!

COOP was just trying to explain to people what he's up to. If he had said he's doing what he's done before - many readers would have no idea what he's talking about.

BTW - I love the new print.

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#33 posted by benschomatic , April 18, 2008 4:47 PM

Frustrated: Not at all
Art-literate: Mildly
Contrarian: Always!

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#34 posted by Antinous , April 18, 2008 5:06 PM

Bensochomatic,

You're not a contrarian. You're a leaky piehole. You've insulted the artist. You've insulted Xeni. You've ranted about your theories and ideas, but you haven't shown us your creative output, unless you consider armchair whining to be creativity. Where's your blog? Where's your artwork? Where are your published works for us to read? In brief, you've complained about the flavor of the free ice cream. Go away.

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#35 posted by benschomatic , April 18, 2008 5:28 PM

Yh, knw whn ws n rt schl nd fllw stdnt r nstrctr crtqd my wrk, lwys skd t s thr wrk t mk sr thy knw wht th f**k thy wr tlkng bt. Pfft. Pls. Y mst thnk ll msc crtcs r mscns.

gss y'v spkn wth Xn nd Cp nd thy'v tld y tht thy wr nsltd by my cmmnts.

Fl fr t crtq my stgnnt blg, my brng Flckr phts nd whtvr ls y my fnd.

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#36 posted by Anonymous , April 18, 2008 5:56 PM

Since this has turned into a free-for-all, let me too chime in (Coop's wife Ruth and the publisher of these prints).

The FIRST THING on our Giclee Page

http://www.coopstuff.com/Pages/PosterGiclee.HTML

explains the giclee process in great detail.

These prints are created with archival paper and inks, using sophisticated machinery that is constantly calibrated. In many ways these prints are actually superior to silkscreen prints, and like it or not, they're going to be around for a while.

But hey, the good news is I'm not driving to your house and forcing you to buy them. In fact they're already nearly sold out.

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#37 posted by Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator

, April 18, 2008 7:15 PM

Anonymous Ruth @36: Thanks for the amplified explanation. The giclée/inkjet thing comes up way too often when one of the Boingers blogs a giclée print. I'm thinking of instituting a policy that goes, "If you care that much about printmaking, how come you don't know that giclée prints are a different process?"

I'll happily take guff from anyone who knows more about printing than I do.

Benschomatic, Igor no like permanently contrarian commenters. Easy gig, takes no judgement.

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#38 posted by Ruth666

, April 18, 2008 7:46 PM

Thanks Teresa!

(I've joined up and signed in)

True, some people still love to bash on giclees, but to me it just shows ignorance, especially when the true info is so easy to find.

The prints speak for themselves.

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#39 posted by benschomatic , April 18, 2008 7:50 PM

Moderator: You missed #33. If you're going to censor, please be thorough.

I work for a printing company and I can say that giclées can be of really great quality in the hands of the right people using good equipment and the right paper. They are sprayed and not ink to plate to paper offset printed, but I think people would be hardpressed to come up with anything comparable on any typical consumer inkjet regardless of cost. A real good Iris machine runs a good 5 or 6 figures.

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#40 posted by Antinous , April 18, 2008 7:51 PM

But hey, the good news is I'm not driving to your house and forcing you to buy them.

It might make a good episode of BBTV. Perhaps Klaus Pierre could provide the muscle.

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#41 posted by Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator

, April 18, 2008 9:20 PM

Benschomatic @39:

Moderator: You missed #33.

Nope. That was on purpose.

If you're going to censor, please be thorough.

That wasn't censorship. You might want to check out the moderation guidelines.

I work for a printing company and I can say that giclées can be of really great quality in the hands of the right people using good equipment and the right paper.

You're not going to see a particle of disagreement out of me on that one.

They are sprayed and not ink to plate to paper offset printed,

Yes.

but I think people would be hardpressed to come up with anything comparable on any typical consumer inkjet regardless of cost. A real good Iris machine runs a good 5 or 6 figures.

Technology just keeps moving. I remember when the equivalent of PhotoShop required a dedicated machine that cost as much as the mortgage on a McMansion.

Go ahead and critique the printing on Coop's latest, if that's what you're leading up to. Just be civil about it, and remember that he and his wife are in the audience.

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#42 posted by Takuan , April 18, 2008 9:29 PM

see? there ARE patterns, rules, trails through the jungle and a grand order to all things. Let he who has eyes to see, see then.

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#43 posted by Ruth666

, April 18, 2008 10:49 PM

Don't be civil on MY account - just don't be full of shit either.

And don't make personal attacks and expect them to be seen as lofty and objective offerings.

You don't like Coop - wonderful - you don't have to. Just don't try to damage his reputation by lying about the quality of something you've never seen just to make yourself look good.

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#44 posted by Antinous , April 19, 2008 2:25 PM

Wait. Your moniker is Ruth 666. Coop's paintings feature devil women. Hmmmm. I sense the presence of a muse.

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#45 posted by Takuan , April 19, 2008 2:31 PM

...I always wanted a Devil Woman.....

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#46 posted by Antinous , April 19, 2008 2:57 PM

You mean all those Devil Rays you tentaculated weren't women?

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#47 posted by Takuan , April 19, 2008 5:07 PM

just the Mantas and Eagles