Children's book about plastic surgery
My Beautiful Mommy is a new kids book about plastic surgery. It was written by Michael Salzhauer, a plastic surgeon in Bal Harbour, Florida. Salzhauer says he came up with the idea to help parents explain cosmetic procedures to their children. From Newsweek:
"My Beautiful Mommy" is aimed at kids ages four to seven and features a plastic surgeon named Dr. Michael (a musclebound superhero type) and a girl whose mother gets a tummy tuck, a nose job and breast implants. Before her surgery the mom explains that she is getting a smaller tummy: "You see, as I got older, my body stretched and I couldn't fit into my clothes anymore. Dr. Michael is going to help fix that and make me feel better." Mom comes home looking like a slightly bruised Barbie doll with demure bandages on her nose and around her waist.Link
The text doesn't mention the breast augmentation, but the illustrations intentionally show Mom's breasts to be fuller and higher. "I tried to skirt that issue in the text itself," says Salzhauer. "The tummy lends itself to an easy explanation to the children: extra skin and can't fit into your clothes. The breasts might be a stretch for a six-year-old."
UPDATE: As our eagle eyed community manager Teresa Nielsen Hayden points out in the comments, My Beautiful Mommy is actually a self-published book and not likely to see wide distribution. That said, I still think it's a notable artifact. Dr. Michael Salzhauer clearly spent a great deal of time and effort on this unusual project and that, in itself, is interesting enough for me. But for a more balanced view of the shitstorm started by Newsweek and fanned by folks like me, I encourage you to read Teresa's post on the subject at Making Light. Link
This is fucking horrible. Yeah... with everything going on in the world it's MOST IMPORTANT to teach our kids about plastic surgery.
"You see, as I got older, my body stretched and I couldn't fit into my clothes anymore. Dr. Michael is going to help fix that and make me feel better." ---so just remember little one, when you get too fat to fit into your clothes, don't bother going to the gym or getting some exercise, just go see Dr. Michael.
I'm not trying to denigrate the field of plastic surgery altogether (there are certainly legitimate uses), but... I find this pretty disturbing, both on its own, and as an indicator of the large amounts of purely cosmetic surgeries performed as an incomplete solution to a primarily psychological problem of insufficient self-esteem.
You'd think that parents giving one of these to their kid to explain their frivolous cosmetic surgical procedures might be given a bit of pause when they realize what it's coming to, but I can't help but suspect that most of those people won't give it a second thought.
"Gee kids, maybe you can learn to hate yourself just as much as I do!!!"
I vote this most souless, evil corporate spawn of a book.... this year.
I can't decide if this is more disturbing or less disturbing than Microsoft's server-in-the-home children's book.
I'm gonna go with "more disturbing", I think.
A *lot* more disturbing.
This has got to be the dumbest idea for a kids book ever. It's right up there with those joke kids book titles that circulated a while back- like "Daddy Drinks Because You Cry" and "Elmo Experiments".
Talk about sending the wrong message.
That cover is terrifying. It's an embodiment of so much of what people dislike about elective cosmetic surgery.
Tragic, I thought it was a joke at first. From the illustrations the "mommy" even lives in a McMansion and drives a BMW SUV...way to teach the little ones what normal life looks like..
If you don't feel "pretty" on the inside, plastic surgery sure as hell isn't going to fix the problem..
This reminds me of possibly the greatest review I've ever read of a television show (MY SUPER SWEET 16)...
"This is why terrorists want to kill us."
wasn't there a Bradbury story.....
just a matter of time before this hits the shelf of walmart everywhere...
http://www.pleix.net/beautykit.html
The author made a rookie mistake: people who get elective cosmetic surgery are the sort of people who don't pay attention to their kids.
Alternative Title:
Mommy got some Righteous New Knockers
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What's wrong with mommy that needs to be fixed? Is there something wrong with mommy at all? Clearly, mommy believes something is inherently wrong with her. I believe that mommy's struggle with her perception of herself is an inner struggle, not an external one.
I also believe children are integral in a way that adults aren't. Given this belief, should they be exposed to or even be made to deal with an adults incongruity? Should the adults incongruity between their inner and outer selves be presented in a story book?
My judgement is that this is an ad for giving great leeway to incongruity in adults and the target audience are children. I feel ineffably sad about that.
My mom is saggy and wrinkly and grey. Whenever I see her she's still my beautiful mommy.
I shall add it to my bookself titles:
Mommy Stayed in Bed This Morning
http://lifecenter.ric.org/content/1785/index.html?topic=3&subtopic=160
Heather has Two Mommies
http://www.amazon.com/Heather-Has-Two-Mommies-Anniversary/dp/1555835430
I'm not denigrating these two books, but the titles amuse me.
Perhaps the next book in the series is Mommy Needs a Sugar Daddy
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The breasts might be a stretch for a six-year-old.
ha ha, how's that for hypocrisy
OK, how do we expel Florida from the Union?
It's a peninsula, so the new border would be easy to defend. Lots of coastline, so the navy can lob in the shells when necessary.
Isn't it time?
I'd suggest that people read the book, which won't be out until next month, before getting too up-in-arms and start calling the doctor, organizing protests, etc. I'm not saying "My Beautiful Mommy" is not creepy, but it's always best to read a book before, er, reviewing it.
Okay okay okay. Obviously this book is two parts hilarious, nineteen parts sick and wrong.
But just for the record, cosmetic surgery isn't inherently evil, selfish, etc. I'll skip my "it happened to a friend of mine..." story because it's long and involved, but suffice it to say there are plenty of people out there getting "elective" cosmetic surgery whose lives are made unambiguously better by it. Not the cheesy made-for-basic-cable-reality show stuff, either, but stuff that's about as morally controversial as taking antibiotics for strep throat.
From what doctor friends tell me (although none of them are surgeons, so grain of salt) I get the feeling there's a lot more of that than drive-through liposuctions or booth-tanned trophy wives swapping out their C-cup implants for DDs.
you can't legislate intelligence, you can't bully it or coerce it. Harassing this opportunist doctor does nothing to increase the education required to raise children that aren't so shallow as to need surgery to be able to face a mirror.
Sounds like Dr. Michael lives in a high-end, bejeweled, shiny box. Just north of Miami Beach. I didn't know you could have your conscience (cosmetic) surgically removed.
"Mommy's tummy is saggy because Mommy carried you around in it for nine months, and ate a lot during that time and got big and fat. So you see, Dearest, it's all your fault."
@MCGRINGOSTARR
Is this the review you mentioned?
http://www.avclub.com/content/cinema/bratz_the_movie
phas3d , April 16, 2008 10:09 AM
Good way to get sued by this doctor, phas3d. I wonder if Boing Boing will give up your IP address if subpoenaed?
IOW, why stoop to this level? Just shun his books and shun him. Write poor reviews on his book, not on his services. Book burning is for.... well, I don't want to invoke Godwin's law here, but you should know what I mean.
The book is bad, self-esteem, blah, blah and whatnot. I don't care, but the cartoon mommy on the cover of that book is HAUTE!
Yes!
Let's all harass the doctor just like "'Net bullies target Chinese student participants in pro-Tibet protests!"
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/04/16/net-bullies-target-c.html
I think I must read this book, for the giggles if nothing else.
More than anything the look on the child's face on the cover disturbs me.
Absolutely disgusting. Shame on any publisher who would create this social turd.
The book would be so much better if it showed mommy getting plastic surgery to look like a cat. Just sayin...
Alternate title: Mommy has Two Implants
Alternate title: Daddy no longer has a micro-penis
Gee, Mommy, you're so MILFY now! All the little boys from my school say you're HOT! Is that a good thing?
And all it took were three horribly painful, slow to recover from, monstrously expensive surgeries. And I don't mind that I can't actually feel my nose, breasts or belly anymore.
While I for one have often wondered if a face lift would better accent my cheekbones, why is he marketing to kids? Kids don't have jobs, silly. Or else what would it say about a parents self esteem if s/he explained needing plastic surgery to a kid throuh a weird book? It would be a two second conversation: momma wants some action. End of.
Alternate title: "Mommy Isn't Really Happy, She Just Can't Stop Smiling"
Maybe the kid should go in for plastic surgery, too. Being that androgynous can't be good on the playground.
That, I'm sorry, is sick.
Initially I was disturbed, particularly by the cover, but the part in blockquotes didn't really upset me. Simply put: I can understand why a child might be concerned and frightened if his mother came home in pain from a tummy tuck, or otherwise incredibly bruised and swollen, and why he might need it explained that his mother hasn't necessarily been, uh, beaten up.
Nothing like prepping that next generation of consumers I guess...
Paul - originalfaith.com
I think this book has one major shortcoming -- what about the daughter pictured on the cover? I mean, Jesus, what's with that hair? And seriously, it's called makeup, girls. Once you're old enough to pull up, pull up to that cosmetics counter. Plus she's completely flat-chested, it's just not sexy. You can't go wrong with a solid set of D-cups, she'll grow into them.
And after that, maybe then we can start thinking about doing some work on that teddy bear.
If they have psychological services for those that wish to switch from male to female, and vise versa, why the hell don't they do the same for perfectly good people that wish for bigger tits, or a smaller nose. No matter what type of elective surgery people have, they still won't be happy with themselves for a simple reason, the doctor worked on the body and not the mind.
I think that plastic surgery has a place in the medical services, for burn victims, for breast cancer survivors, for amputees, that is fine. When I see a perfectly good teenager on Dr. 90210 going in for a breast enhancement, it makes me sad really.
@Cowicide
I never stated anyone should review or comment on this doctor's qualifications as a surgeon. There is nothing illegal in writing opinions on someone's work as an "author". The websites anyone can post reviews on have the opportunity and right to reject and/or delete posts as they see fit. Also, the doctor has the right to petition any site to have negative information retracted.
To be clear, I am advising everyone to go to any procedure/surgical site and leave negative reviews of this doctor's new book or simply leave your opinion on the book's subject matter.
Nothing wrong with that.
@41: tee hee! Good post.
$42: Right on.
I'm not one of the It's-About-the-Children! brigade, but there's something about juxtaposing this with a child that really points up what's wrong with it.
In this case: if this is the type of role model you're providing your child, your child is fucked.
If in a time when 40 million Americans don't have health insurance you're teaching your child that your appearance is your top priority, you are a failure in the role model department.
I'm no prude and I don't object to people doing some basic maintenance on themselves, but when you start getting into breast implant territory, your money is better spent on a shrink than a plastic surgeon. Trust me, you will be happier and better adjusted, and the results will never sag or come undone. Money well spent.
Once again, The Onion is eerily prophetic: "New Children's Book Helps Kids Deal With Pain And Isolation Of Plastic Surgery"
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/27973
"Kill all the ugly people!"
I think it's pretty significant that the mommy facing away from her kid, there is no sharing going on there.
It's all about the pretty mommy!
#42. I agree whole-heartedly. Transgenderism and other medical/reconstructive procedures (like post-accident, harelip, whatever) have great psychological and emotional support groups. Why can't people who want plastic surgery go to group therapy and discuss WHY they want it, then see if it, coupled with therapy, could really help them?
I'm not against the surgeries themselves, just the "why" behind it. If you don't like yourself, getting big tits or a new nose isn't going to help.
And just for the record, I hate liposuction and tummy tucks and stomach stapling. Why don't people realize that if they just ate the same amount, but in healthy foods, did cardio, and lifted weights, they really CAN look like Halle Barry? That's what all those starlets do! They LIFT WEIGHTS. It's not going to make you huge and "gross," but it will require work. Which I guess what these people don't WANT to do. They throw money at a problem you can't fix on the outside.
There's nothing wrong with mommy that Prozac and a daily bottle of scotch won't fix.
"Mommy, the doctor said 'he gave you two D's.' Mommy, you'll have to study harder next time!"
Mommy still has a big, ugly nose.
Alternate titles:
"Why you won't be going to college"
"Why Mommy hasn't been getting out of bed in the morning"
"Your new daddy won't leave us now!"
What have we done? What the hell are we doing?
The only way I could ever see this book actually selling more than 10 copies (to the author himself), is if a bunch of websites link to it, giving it worldwide publicity and - oh. Hmmm. Maybe he'll give Boing Boing a shout-out in his sequel "Who's Your Daddy?"
Maybe the author should have consulted these two:
http://tinyurl.com/432gta
"My New And Improved Mommy", by Ira Levin
This may be less about mommy's self esteem issues and more about breeding a future generation that sees plastic surgeory as a legitimate option to make oneself 'pretty' inside and out.
He's just securing his future; 13 or 14 years from now these same kids will be getting the same procedures.
I thought that BoingBoing was supposed to be "A Directory of Wonderful Things".
But this...this is absolutely horrible.
@ Bonnie The book would be so much better if it showed mommy getting plastic surgery to look like a cat. Just sayin...
Best comment so far!
"Let's all harass the doctor just like "'Net bullies target Chinese student participants in pro-Tibet protests!"
There's nothing wrong with a respectful, polite e-mail telling him what you think. It's neither illegal nor unethical.
Don't mess with his internet rating, though. That's not what internet ratings are for. Leaving fake negative feedback is indefensible.
@ Santa's Knee - yeah, I didn't notice, why didn't Mommy get a nose job while she was at it?
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On Topic:
I hear that the Dallas, TX, version of this book will have the subtitle: "Now Momma Will Look Good for the Rapture."
Slightly Off-Topic:
I go back and forth on what I think is the single worst invention of western society: breast implants or ready-made greeting cards. The former warped the way we look at ourselves and others, making us feel that variations from a plastic doll standard are necessarily bad. The latter killed almost all reason to communicate formally with real emotion.
"Let's all harass the doctor just like "'Net bullies target Chinese student participants in pro-Tibet protests!"
Posting the doctor's physical address in this context seems creepy, sorry to say. That's just asking for trouble, and is reminiscent of pro-lifer tactics.
@ #11. Sometimes people who get plastic surgery pay a lot of attention to their kids, too much really. And as soon as little Binky is old enough, mummy will see to her getting her nose done, and her breast implants.
The kids, the girls especially, will be taught that only people with "perfect" bodies and faces are worth of love.
It is very sad. I wish, when folks looked in the mirror and saw the drooping eyelids or sagging boobs or receding hairlines, instead of spending the money on themselves to get the silly surgery, they'd donate that amount to provide important medical treatments for people with real problems who haven't the funds.
Because no surgery is going to make you look young or perfect forever. We all age. The good karma lasts a whole lot longer!
I find Twilight Zone action figures and NO ONE is impressed?!
Yeah before we all start calling Dr. Salzhauer or leaving him negative reviews on doctor review sites, let's ask ourselves if we really hate Dr. S for writing a book that helps moms explain their elective plastic surgery, or if we hate moms for getting elective plastic surgery. Judging by a lot of the comments, it's the more the latter than the former.
Dr. S's contribution to society is definitely not a good one, but it sounds like this book is just reflecting what a lot of his patients actually believe--that they need surgery to feel better and they don't have enough self control do lose weight and tone up naturally. And it's harmful to perpetuate that message to kids, but this book is not the creator of that message--these moms are.
And yeah if you still want to be a Dr. S hater, at least read the darned thing first.
Well, I'M impressed! And I want them!
Takuan,
Come to think of it, what I'd really like is a Twilight Zone ringtone for my phone.
Sad thing they can only improve boobs and not IQ. Funny how people today complain about the objectification of women but don't mind them turning up in ads that portray them as plastic products.
"Dr. S's contribution to society is definitely not a good one... but this book is not the creator of that message--these moms are."
So it's all the fault of the moms, and the doctor doing the surgery doesn't share the blame? He certainly is profiting by it!
This discussion, BTW, is not really about this book at all, but about the abuse of plastic surgery. This book is just the sand in the oyster.
I've always wanted the red telephone ring from - was it The President's Analyst or In like Flint?....
when you get too fat to fit into your clothes, don't bother going to the gym or getting some exercise, just go see Dr. Michael
Why don't people realize that if they just ate the same amount, but in healthy foods, did cardio, and lifted weights, they really CAN look like Halle Barry?
Gentlemen, I understand that you've never actually gotten near a real woman, so let a gay man explain it to you. When you get really stretched out, your skin doesn't necessarily snap back to its old shape. Many women have a lot of sagging, wrinkled extra tissue. No amount of dieting or exercise is going to make it go away. In fact, the more weight you lose, the more saggy extra skin you have. It can even cause discomfort during exercise.
Gaining fifty pounds in one area of your body is equivalent to an overall weigh gain of 100 or 150 pounds in terms of getting stretched out. Try gaining 150 pounds for a few months, then try to shrink your skin back. It's not happening. Although some of the men commenting here might appreciate their mate's postpartum figure, a lot of you will end up screwing someone younger because you don't find her attractive anymore and because you're a pig, anyway.
This book is a stupid idea, but cut these women some slack.
@Antinous:
"so let a gay man explain it to you"
LOL
@NICK D: No, it's not all the moms' fault, but plastic surgeons like Dr. S exist because moms want bigger boobs and flatter tummies and thinner noses (for reasons perpetuated by society, the media, etc.), not the other way around. Dr. S is making a profit off these women, and now an even bigger one, so agreed: he's slimey. But I'm not going to harass Dr. S for being one of howevermany opportunistic slimeballs in the world, and I'll discourage others from doing so too. I was responding to that rather frightening war cry made by others in the post.
this is why I parasitize suitable hosts with already motile larvae. Plus you don't have to buy them dinner.
Antinous, are you saying that all the people who were once morbidly obese and managed to lose all the extra weight, had to have plastic surgery to remove the extra skin? I'm thinking about the Subway guy you always see on commercials. So everyone who loses weight is going to have extra skin hanging around for the rest of their lives? Seriously, I'm just curious.
"Gentlemen, I understand that you've never actually gotten near a real woman, so let a gay man explain it to you."
-- I find that to be a little snide and mean coming from someone who is usually more gracious.
(Don't tell my wife).
Collagen strength varies between individuals. Some people might snap back pretty well, particularly if they're younger and have better ectoplasm. Anyone who loses more than fifty pounds will almost certainly have loose skin. Someone who loses more than a hundred pounds will probably have a pannus.
People who tell other people what to do with their bodies, particularly men telling women, get on my nerves.
#78 - There is a difference between telling someone what to do, and critisising their choice.
I wonder if he will write the companion book, "Mommy won't be coming home any more because she died from complications relating to elective surgery" starring the late Olivia Goldsmith the author of The First Wives Club.
I know, I spelled it wrong, sorry.
"Next on Pimp my Mom...."
There is a difference between telling someone what to do, and criticizing their choice.
I dare you to have that conversation with your wife.
Dr Michael is hella buff.
Is there a self-esteem and ethics book that comes with this as well?
Devi's advocate here, providing a justification for elective cosmetic surgery:
Let's say a woman feels unhappy about how she looks. It isn't a weight thing, where she could just diet (and where lipo is just a temporary solution); she wants bigger breasts. There's nothing that she can do to change this; it's not her fault for having small breasts. Now, she could go to a psychologist for a year, build up her self-esteem, realize that she doesn't need big breasts to feel good about herself, etc. Or she could go to a plastic surgeon and get bigger breasts. If the latter makes her just as happy as the former, and costs less (psychologists aren't cheap), why is it not the better solution? Perhaps a focus on the physical over the mental is a problem with our society, but for an individual woman whose worldview is firmly entrenched in that society, maybe it's better for her in the long run to just get cosmetic surgery than to change her entire concept of "beauty."
In real life, not so much.
I think my favorite chapter is "Mommy's New Rack is Hot!"
Seriously, this is just fucked up.
I like the future. I disagree with all of the hyper-judgemental luddites. People want to look different and take surgical steps to achieve that? Good. I want future generations to see that as acceptable because that means it might one day be acceptable to get chips in one's brain, cybernetic tentacles and myriad other bodily improvements. And I want all of those things.
Incest is creepy no matter how it's presented. A children's book where a child objectifies his mother in a physical way makes me throw up in my mouth a little bit.
Ask Kanye West what he thinks of what cosmetic surgery did for his "beautiful mommy".
"I dare you to have that conversation with your wife."
-- We do all the time, it's not easy or pleasant. But it helps keep the air clear.
for an individual woman whose world view is firmly entrenched in that society
And that's just a part of the issue. She's also stewing in the world view of potential mates, bosses, etc. A waitress (or even a waiter) with a great rack takes home more money at the end of the night. Does anybody not believe that?
My big problem with the book is that Mommy looks like a Barbie doll. That's just bad plastic surgery. A friend of mine had a baby a couple of years ago at age 35ish. She went up to F cups. (Hands back on the keyboard guys!) When she was done nursing, her boobs hung down almost to her waist. She got them hiked up. There's a big difference between having things put back where they were only a year before and making yourself look like Barbie.
We do all the time, it's not easy or pleasant.
You're way ahead of the game, then. It's probably just semantics, but I wouldn't stay in a relationship where I was being criticized. I'd prefer to be encouraged, even if it was forcefully. If I had a spouse who was considering something, I'd say, "I love you the way you are, but if it makes you happy, go ahead and do it." Unless it was penile enhancement, and then I'd say, "Yes! Do it! Do it do it do it do it do it!"
Trimeta @ 86:
Because one involves major surgery on a (presumably) otherwise healthy, functional body.Because one says "yes, society gets to tell me what's acceptable and what isn't in terms of my appearance, and gets to tell me that I need to cut off parts of my body or have foreign objects implanted in my body to meet those externally-imposed standards of beauty."
Because getting breast implants will not do a thing to address the greater issue of dissatisfaction with one's body or self.
Because breast implants often have negative effects on breast sensitivity and function.
Because working with a therapist can help a person learn skills and tools that will help them in all areas of their lives.
Because having small breasts is not a deformity. (Dammit.)
I don't think I could disagree more strongly.A lot of commenters are making the claim that people want to look thinner, or have bigger boobs, or more symmetrical faces, because "society" wants them to. I have also heard "the media" blamed.
Um, I know it's painful, but can we consider the possibility that preferring younger-looking, thinner, more symmetrical mates is just . . . gulp . . . natural? And that there are good evolutionary reasons why we might do that, even if there weren't a fashion industry?
I'm not saying it's moral to ditch your mate because of loose skin or a mastectomy or weight gain, but we should recognize that there are certain biologically-encoded limits on our sexual attraction. Plastic surgery and otherwise altering our looks might well be the best answer to this problem for most people, at least until we can reprogram our brains (I'm all for that, too).
Genuine love does a pretty good job of solving this problem, but how realistic a solution is that, for most people? See the crazy divorce lady video.
Because getting breast implants will not do a thing to address the greater issue of dissatisfaction with one's body or self.
Not entirely true. I hated my nose every day of my life. I had a nose job and I haven't noticed my nose for twenty years. Sometimes it's quite effective, although most everybody should probably be in therapy anyway.
Women who have sagging breasts hiked up tend to be happy with the results. Women who have enlargements for purely cosmetic reasons very commonly regret the decision. Reversals are the growth area in plastic surgery right now.
Takuan @72: In Like Flint! Definitely!
call me when they can prune all the black, cancerous growths from my soul
ah! thanks,now I know where to look
call me when they can prune all the black, cancerous growths from my soul
Ask and ye shall receive.
I have to say that I'm a little disturbed by all the nasty, negative comments thrown out at those who choose elective cosmetic surgery. I can understand that viewpoint, but much of what has been said sounds extremely ignorant. There is a whole spectrum of motivations and results and to focus on the absolute worst and ignore the rest is pretty lame.
you're paying for cleaning the upholstery!
a sign of the apocalypse...
hey Antinous!
Nani?
do me a solid bro, (to put in the colourful vernacular of your people) googleimages "takuan"and tell me what you get by page 2, thanks
Pickles, monks, monks, pickles, then every image that you've ever linked to from here, starting with Hitler.
Speaking of which, I just finished an anime series featuring your namesake's arch-enemy Tokugawa Hidetada.
now, that is disturbing
the Purple Robe Affair would hardly create an arch enemy - especially for such as Soho. I do however share a common history of shimanagashi.
What were you expecting from Google images? Not to have your entire linkage history spread-eagled for the whole internet to finger?
I googled Antinous and got - mostly pictures of the divine Antinous, but starting on page five there were pictures linked from BB. Several were linked by me, but more were linked by you. Just commenting in the same thread as you has contaminated me.
yes, imminent Scroogling.
OK NOW PEOPLE LISTEN UP: now,I need you all to go to the kitchen and look in the cabinet under the sink, are you there yet? Good. Now, take the bottle that mummy told you never to touch, you know, the one with the plumber-man on the label? Good. Now get a glass from the cabinet.....