Gama-Go hoodie sale, including Boing Boing hoodie!
Gama-Go is having a big hoodie sale! Buy one and you can get a second for 1/2 off. That includes the limited-edition Boing Boing/Gama-Go hoodie too! (Unfortunately, very limited sizes remain on those.) So, for example, if you buy a $120 BB/GG hoodie (above left) and an $84 Deathbot Circuitry hoodie (above right), they'll half the price of the more expensive BB/GG hoodie, bringing your total to $144 for the two. The Gama-Go crew is holding the sale to support a very exciting new project: They're hoping to open a boutique and art gallery in San Francisco! Also, keep your eyes peeled for another fun BB/GG collaboration in the near future. Link
UPDATE: For those not seeing the discount when they order, the Gama-Go sale page informs, "To be clear, we will adjust your total after you've placed your order, but before we charge your card."
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i'm sorry but as much as i love boingboing and its relatives, i cant justify buying a 120$ hoodie. i got a tshirt from them a while ago for 30 something dollars and i still can't figure out why it was so expensive. altho the designs they have are lovely, in my mind it doesn't really justify the inflated price tag.
I bought a hoodie and the super mega sale at the Bigfoot Lodge. It was only like $30. It was worth it. I couldn't justify spending the actual price for them though.
One thing to note for the ladies hoodies: forget about using the hood. The hood is ridiculously short so that when I put it on my head, the entire sweatshirt gets pulled up rendering me very ET-esque. It's not the giant lovely comfy hood I hoped it would be - but I get a ton of compliments on the hoodie itself.
that boing boing hoodie is quite stylish. but yeah not gonna cough up the bread for it.
£60 for a hoodie? is it to frame or to wear?!?
It must be made of silk and gold thread.
Dear commenters,
I have the BB hoodie, and it's an amazing piece of wearable art, a fantastically well-made garment. In a world of 'you get what you pay for', this hoodie adheres to that doctrine admirably.
Also, the cheap clothes that you buy are commonly made by nameless, half-starved children who are denied education and chained to their work stations in third world countries. So, the next time that you complain about world politics, look down: you're probably wearing child slavery. Now that's a fashion statement.
Boing Boing commenters are surprisingly ignorant of how goods are priced, how much designer goods usually go for, or even how things are made. There's nothing even remotely unreasonable about the prices of these. Wal-Mart is always open for those of you who need the very cheapest of everything.
@antinous Good response. Sarah just came home with hers (a gift for joining Happy Mutants) and I was super jealous. It's a cool piece of art and reasonably priced given that.
@ antinous - yes, they are attractive, but your post all but says that if we don't buy expensive clothes ("you get what you pay for"), then we are somehow condoning, if not outright supporting, child slavery.
That, of course, is bullshit. Many companies who claim to have earth & labor friendly practices regularly lie in order to sell more merchandise to people who are easily fooled by the "getting what you pay for" argument.
Sorry, but no sale. You have no idea where and under what conditions the clothes you are wearing right now were produced, regardless of their price, and regardless of what the company's press release tells you. To believe otherwise is to be easily swayed by today's hot new marketing.
So it's utterly impossible to make an informed choice? Well, that rather conveniently relieves you of all responsibility.
Imperialism is driven by consumers in the first world who want to make as much money as possible and buy things as cheaply as possible. That deficit has to come from somewhere, and that somewhere is the rest of the world. Why do you think that we're in Iraq? Our subjugation of the rest of the world is a completely personal choice made by everyone of us every day. Unless, of course, we make different choices.
@antinous - why so patronizing? why so black-and-white. it's either $120 for a sweatshirt or you're supporting sweatshops?
how very fundamentalist of you. that's the same kind of logic that the Bush administration uses to rationalize locking up anyone who they don't like. you're either with us, or agin' us!
Pffft,
Your post contains no actual content.
It contains more than yours.
On another note, that green hoodie is the business, and I'm totally shelling out the scratch for it.
The Boing Boing hoodies don't cost $120 because they were made without child labor; they cost $120 because they are art objects. Whether they were made by children or not HAS NO BEARING on how much they cost or whether it's a fair price or not. For all we know, the base garment might well HAVE been made by a child; but it costs $120 because they think they can get $120 for it, and the reason they think that is because of the very limited, very stylish, and very attractive artwork that is screened and embroidered on it.
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@ ntns
Thanks for the lecture on imperialism. 'm nt sr my hd s ny dpr n th snd thn yrs s, bt g hd nd blv whtvr y nd t blv.
I buy expensive clothes, for example a hoodie at double the cost of the BB/GG (http://www.tadgear.com/x-treme%20gear/apparel%20main/merino_stealth_coat.htm), however the price tag is explicable based on materials (merino wool) and construction details (zipper garages!).
As mentioned by ridestowe, other than 'style', what explains the $120 price tag on the Gama-Go hoodie?
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As stated above, I actually own one of these hoodies. For what it's worth, it IS indeed a great piece of design. I appreciate all the craftsmanship that went into it - the inside pockets, the various embroidery designs, the zipper pull, the durability of it. That might be worth $84. I however am a poor student who does care about where her clothes are made and by whom. That said, I still can't afford the $84 for a piece of art or for a piece of clothing - (categories whatever.)
All that said: The hood sucks because it's unusable, and the hoodie shrunk a LOT even though I followed all washing instructions and never put it in the dryer.
FWIW, I've washed and hang-dried my BB hoodie a dozen times and haven't seen noticeable shrinkage. So, YMMV.
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"Our subjugation of the rest of the world is a completely personal choice made by everyone of us every day."
That line will get a lot of laughs at the next Bilderberg conference, btw.
"Imperialism is driven by consumers in the first world who want to make as much money as possible and buy things as cheaply as possible."
...so by extension, do we conclude that people in the 2nd and 3rd Worlds DON'T also want to make as much money as possible and buy things as cheaply as possible...? I think demographic changes in India and China would run counter to this.
*wink*
Imperialism is in part driven by the forces you describe, but there's more to it than that.
At a deeper level, there's just something wrong with the basic mental structure of "make as much money as possible and buy things as cheaply as possible"; as Americans this seems, at first glance, like a human universal, but in fact it's not (though it has spread like a cancer through the world of ideas). The more virulent strain of this mental virus is the Las Vegas variant, which boils down to the unspoken belief of "It is possible to get something for nothing".
There seems to be a lot of resistance from on high of any competing narrative, say "make enough money to live modestly well and try to buy only what you really need, with only a few luxuries for the sake of art/aesthetics--nobody too rich but nobody too poor, either"
...Or how about "I'd like to live in a walkable community where I didn't have to @#$@ drive everywhere". Because I can, in fact, walk to work, I do so, but there are obvious limits to my personal choice...most of my colleagues continue to commute in. I'm also very fortunate that there are actually places worth walking to in my neighborhood (a college town main square with little privately owned shops, cafes, etc, and very little by way of alien--as in non-local--corporate presence). But we also have our crappy strip mall hell along the highway just like nearly every other town in America.
Part of the problem is that Contemporary mainstream Economic theory doesn't recognize any such thing as "needs", it stuffs everything into the category of WANTS. Contemporary economic theory is also predicated on infinite growth--on a finite planet.
Contemporary mainstream Economic theory is, therefore, a variety of psychopathic mental illness and delusion in the service of those in the top 10% of worldwide incomes who are utterly drunk on power. At least that's how it looks to me.
Unless you're willing to live off the land, off the grid and voluntarily transition to and be satisfied with a more 19th and 18th century mode of existence, "Green living choices" are really more about feel-good fashion choices than anything truly substantive...kind of like my voting for Obama in the Texas primary.
Back to the original post, for what it's worth--the Green circuit board hoodie is beautiful, very Matrix-y, but I don't need it. I've got plenty of functional hoodies for the climate I live in. I do my part to support the arts by going to museums and becoming a dues-paying member, and by patronizing "Art Walks", etc.
I probably fail by most Environmental standards of morality and am "part of the problem". But little atomized consumer choice actions without concerted COLLECTIVE action are little better than re-arranging deck chairs on the good ship Titantic, though maybe some informed consumer choices even rise to the level of smashing said deck-chairs and trying to jury-rig together more makeshift lifeboats...but still doesn't get to the heart of the problem (like avoiding the proverbial damn iceberg to begin with).
Yeah, we all bought tickets, yeah, we should care about the folks down below in steerage (more literal and less metaphorical than I'd like it to be, considering rising ocean levels and island nations), but we're not at the helm in the boathouse if you catch my drift. And every four years we get to vote for either Captain Bligh or Blackbeard...or settle for the lesser evilism of Capt. Edward J. Smith ;-)
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Here we go again! Did none of you read any of the previous hoodie threads? Yadda yadda, I can get a sweatshirt cheaper at Wal-Mart or Target, yadda yadda yadda.
Like David and Antinous, I've seen these things up close. The decoration uses multi-pass multi-color high-quality color printing, embroidery, and applique. They're fully lined with a custom lining fabric, and the buttons are custom-made and unique to the design. There are nifty little design features all over the garment.
Somewhere around here I have closeup photos of John Battelle wearing one. You can really see the garment details.
Kevin, I hope that answers your question?
Melisslissliss, of all the people I know who own this hoodie, you are the only one who's reported having the hood not fit, or having it shrink in the wash. If I were you, I'd get in touch with Gama-Go -- I'm sure they'll want to hear about it.
The first time this subject came up, we got one comment after another pointing out how much the hoodie cost, and saying they could decorate one themselves for a fraction of the price. It was extremely irritating -- hadn't they noticed the previous comments saying exactly the same thing?
What I finally said was: Fine. Buy a sweatshirt or hoodie wherever you prefer to get them. Decorate it as you see fit, send us a photo, and we'll post it.
How many people took us up on the offer? Not one. I'm inclined to think the complaints were 90% attitudinizing. Maybe not. But the offer's still open, if anyone wants to put their sweatshirt where their mouth is.
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Mgr72, if I'd thought it was a reasonable comment, it would still have its vowels. Regarding the rest of your complaints, go read Boing Boing's moderation guidelines.
I absolutely agree with MGR72. This sort of ridiculous censorhip of reasonable comments is pathetic. Take a leaf out of the Guardian's blog and stop being so defensive. It's worse than China...
"It's worse than China..."
Well, except for the cold jail cells and truncheons.
Why can't Boing Boing handle even good natured criticism? My post said that plugging really expensive goods was at odds with the rest of the site's ethos and I lost all my vowels.
Can you please tell me what was so bad about what I said that you needed to make sure other people couldn't read it (or get to the link I provided)?
@Stefan Jones
Thanks for pointing that out! I agree, perhaps that last statement was a slight exageration! :) However I'm just extremely pissed at the arbitrary nature of the censorship here.
Contemporary mainstream Economic theory is, therefore, a variety of psychopathic mental illness
Ha! Great post. Obviously, I wasn't trying to make an analysis of imperialism, just point out that every little thing that we do impacts the system. I also liked your point about needing the hoodie. We all buy so much crap that we don't need. The hoodie is fabulous, but it's definitely dessert. It's a treat. And we all need and deserve the occasional treat.
As Americans, we've gotten into the habit of just grabbing everything that appeals to us and tossing it in the shopping cart. It's like eating your way through the whole bakery. It doesn't make you happy. It doesn't make you healthy. It's just gross.
I think the cost and boingboing-appropriateness is fine as far as I'm concerned. You can get plenty less for plenty more at your average mall and BB brings to light art and design trends among other things, so I don't see how featuring an uncommonly designed hoodie can be construed as anti-BB-ethos...whatever that means.
What I'm concerned about is my age. I just don't think the hoodies are that attractive. I love Gamma-Go's designs -- that's not the issue. It's just that clothing wallpapered with graphics don't really appeal to me (especially the circuitry hoodie). I see a lot of yoots around the Bay Area wearing shirts and jackets in a similar design, often with crowns or dollar signs as the stylistic element, and it comes off as too much and too manic. But I'm 36, so I'm old and my opinion no longer counts.
I for one appreciate BB's posts endorsing luxury consumer goods, kinda like a geekier version of Luxist -- I like these posts better than some of the more politicized content that shows up here.
After looking through the Gamo-Go website, I somewhat agree with TNH/Moderator, looking at the custom lining, buttons, and it's a limited edition of 360, not a massive production run of thousands.
Am I the only one who's not seeing half off a hoodie when I add them to my cart? I've been looking for an excuse to buy this hoodie for a while, and this was it, but it doesn't seem to apply to me. Am I doing it right?
@DJBUMRUSH (#34), From the Gama-Go site:
"To be clear, we will adjust your total after you've placed your order, but before we charge your card."
Thanks!
Gee what a buncha tightwads! It may seem a lot in your puny American dollars but in the UK....
I don't doubt that it is expensive due to it's luxurious components but, I would be so afraid of tearing it, or staining it... anything really. Especially since I wear a hoodie almost constantly.
Perhaps they could someday produce a similar(ish) design but more adequately priced for those of us who don't want to live in fear of sullying their clothes?
Also, what's with the limited run?
I would be so afraid of tearing it
You'd have to work to injure this thing. Tearing it would be impossible. Since it's black with water repellent bits, I don't think that you could stain it. Bleach might work, or a knife wielding maniac. It's really, really solid.
Peebz (27):
Very well. Never say I don't take advice.Agent 00002, you lie like a rug.
Geobarefoot, I'm 52, and my opinion most certainly counts. If you give up now, what will you do for the rest of your long life?
That's some powerful juju.
Indeed it is. I live in fear of her everyday. It's just like being in China.
它的确是。我居住担心她每天。它是象是在中国。
TERESA NIELSEN HAYDEN / MODERATOR: Thanks for the feedback. I did indeed email Gama-Go but never heard back from them. So it goes. I still wear the thing almost daily. And I'm sure I'll buy another one if I can find another sale. Because I still love the amazing craftsmanship and design of these. :)
The green Deathbot hoodie is gorgeous, but I would NEVER spend that much money on a hoodie. Some things you can't pirate on the internet :(
dear god, what have I done.
No idea. All we know is what you type. We can't see what else you might be doing.
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Oh great, another "gama-go" thread. "their clothes are too expensive! waaah! I can buy 100 shirts at Walmart for the same price!"
What people don't seem to realize is that their stuff is made in the US, not in some Chinese sweatshop by a chained-up 5 year old. They've posted in the past how they pay their employees livable wages, benefits, insurance, etc. Their stitching, embroidering, materials and durability are much better than what you'll find at Wally world or Target.
Then there's the people (usually old people) who whine about why they're called "hoodies". They're technically called "hooded sweatshirts", not "sweatshirts". "Sweatshirts" is ambiguous and thus no longer as common. You say "TV" instead of "television", so why is it so bad to say "hoodies" instead of "hooded sweatshirts"?
Finally, the people who make fun of those who wear hoodies who are over the "age of 14". It's kind of sad that you feel there's a need to dress a certain way, like life requires a uniform. Sucks to be a corporate drone who is easily fooled by marketing. WTF are you doing on boingboing anyway?
I saw this post on my RSS feed and had a few bets with myself before opening it.
I bet that there would be a massive hoohah about the price of them. I bet there would be people saying that you're paying for a piece of proper designer schmutter and that's what the proper jobby costs.
I won the money on those two bets.
The only bet I lost was that there would be accusations of hand-in-glove, back scratching with the manufacturers of the garment and BoingBoing (unless those comments were disemvoweled and I couldn't read them)
Two out of three aint bad, as the saying goes :)
My 2d's worth. They're not for me as they're not plain black. (it's a personal taste thing) Plus I'm 43 and I wear hoodies because I like to keep warm and comfy & have pockets to put my stuff in and work doesn't require I wear a suit and tie.
if you are over the age of 14 and still wearing hoodies, well...sucks to be you
I'm guessing that me being a 50 year old male who wears thigh boots and eyeliner would give you a stroke. Say 'hi' to the folks at the rest home for me. I've got a life to get to.
Do a Hoody and thigh boots 'work' as an ensemble Antinous? :)
in his case?
"I'm guessing that me being a 50 year old male who wears thigh boots and eyeliner would give you a stroke. Say 'hi' to the folks at the rest home for me. I've got a life to get to."
no, that sound's like a cool individual to me, someone who wouild never buy into this "hipster" wear...maybe im wrong.
im 16 btw
sixteen you say. That would explain some of the lack of understanding of likely offense caused.
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you know, child, there ARE other ways to engage people's attention.
Better a maladroit sixteen-year-old than a forty-year-old troll. Chances are good that the sixteen-year-old will grow out of it.
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Teresa
I am interested in what your response is to post #202 in the 'Pregnant Man' case.
I'm just wondering why you think I'm going to discuss it here.
It was my mistake to post it here. So perhaps we can move the discussion to its proper place and address it there.
On a more practical note, I really want one of those but I've never worn a hoodie in my life and don't know what size is appropriate. I'm 5' 10" and weigh 155. I've worked in 2 high end clothing stores but haven't the slightest idea how to fit a garment like this. Anyone with experience?
Dear Teresa:
Why, that is unnecessarily hurtful. I have it on good authority from my paid flatterers I don't look a day past 39!
Tcha! You know I wasn't referring to you.
@David Pescovitz #35
Thanks! Must've missed that on the site, wish I had checked back here sooner (although I'm a little disappointed, I emailed them with the very same question the day of my original post and still haven't received a response). Going back now to double check and hopefully place an order.
@ROSSINDETROIT #60
I am 5'8", 160lbs, and I wear a medium when I want to look presentable (the trend for hoodies lately is that they're not worn very baggy) or a large if I want to hit the slopes or I'm bumming around the house. I also think they're great for packing to the gym on a brisk day, and various DIY projects (HOWEVER, loose fitting clothing is usually frowned upon, but I love the extra set of pockets).
These aren't hoodies so much as wearable art, but they're extremely well-made as hoodies: even the zippers are exquisite. A bargain at $120, even better when you get two for one.