Strange nature scene from Chinese children's book

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Andy Switky of IDEO shares this fun illustration from an English-Chinese book that a colleague bought for his young son. "The Nature" page includes such natural features as a nuclear power plant and giant dam. Click the image to enlarge.

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This looks ironic only to New World folks who have had the privilege of imagining "nature" as a space without people in it.

Truth is, if nature has a future, it's as a massively managed space, whether we like it or not.

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More than likely, "the Nature" is just a poor translation of "the Landscape" or "Rural" or something.

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#3 posted by Moon , March 3, 2008 10:56 AM

The Chinese certainly don't have that privilege, David Newland!

It might also be an Engrish problem. Maybe that isn't exactly the right translation.

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Translation is a little off. Think, "Great Outdoors" instead of "The Nature". It seems in the writer's mind, blending mountains, villages, harbors, ocean, boats, damns, rivers, and yes - even power plants are all part of the great outdoors.

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so the Simpsons actually live in Springfield, Guangdong Province, China?

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Stylewise, that seems to me to evoke The Simpsons' Springfield, albeit a much more rural version.

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Why would a nuclear power plant have smokestacks? I think the word you were looking for is coal.

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Yeah, that's probably a coalfire plant. Nuclear would have a big dome instead of tall stacks.

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#9 posted by noen , March 3, 2008 11:32 AM

#7 and #8 are hereby banned from posting to Boingboing. I mean, we have standards to maintain you know and if you don't know what a cooling tower is then... I mean really...

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Sniegowski had it right in that the title is really more like "The Great Outdoors".

Regardless, the concept of "nature" IS a bit different in China. When you go to a national park in the US, it tends to just have trees and grass and rocks. When you go to a national park in China, you'll generally see pagodas and temples sprinkled throughout the landscape. The same goes for paintings of natural scenery. They're pretty much considered part of the land.

That said, we're generally talking about pagodas, not cooling towers. :)

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Nuclear power would also explain the giant ducks. You don't get that with coal.

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#14 posted by Takuan , March 3, 2008 12:46 PM

I wonder what a small child growing up in Beijing would make of this image?

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The picture lacks floating dead river dolphins, sunken cities (big dam byproduct) and the great firewall of China -wouldn't it look quite striking on paper?-. Maybe I can draw it tomorrow during lunch...

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#16 posted by Takuan , March 3, 2008 1:07 PM

I wonder what a small child growing up in Beijing would make of this image?

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#17 posted by noen , March 3, 2008 1:22 PM

@ Takuan
Patriotic pride. There are a lot of signifiers of progress. The atomic power station, the suspension bridge, the floodgate, that boat looks like a double hull design. All point to a "Look at what our glorious revolution hath wrought" style propaganda familiar to any American.

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#18 posted by Shangui , March 3, 2008 1:41 PM

大自然 does indeed mean "nature" or "Nature." "The great outdoors" would be a very misleading translation both of the way the term is used in current Chinese and how it developed historically. I think some of you might be getting mislead by the 大 here but 大自然 is a common term. The nuclear power plant is indeed labeled as 核子站, so it is NOT meant to be a coalfire plant.

I don't think this image would be at all odd to the average person growing up in the PRC (or Taiwan for that matter). Industrialization has long been a point of national pride and nature has not traditionally been seen as the polar opposite of man-made. Remember, Chinese landscape paintings almost always include either human people or buildings. A pagoda is no more or less "natural" than a power plant.

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#19 posted by tp1024 , March 3, 2008 1:52 PM

You have a strange concept of nature.

Nature is, basically, everything. That includes trees, cows, grass, rivers and mountains and also humans and thus human artifacts. Wouldn't you agree that a molehill is part of nature? Or a dam built by a beaver? Or anthills? So why wouldn't a house, a dam or a power plant be part of it? Being "nature" doesn't mean it has to be pretty (also because beauty lies in the eye of the beholder).

So, yeah, a nuclear power plant or a motorway are as much part of nature as meadows (also human artifacts!) and forests (consisting of pines planted in regular spacing). Pretty or not.

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#20 posted by noen , March 3, 2008 2:05 PM

That may be true tp1024 but western civilization has long considered itself as separate from Nature. "This world is not our home" and such. This is especially true among evangelicals where the belief is that we have been given God's creation in order to have dominion over it. Environmentalism is seen as a pagan heresy.

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Unstable isotopes are God's creatures, too.

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#7 posted by jeffro , March 3, 2008 11:22 AM

Why would a nuclear power plant have smokestacks? I think the word you were looking for is coal.

Damn, beaten to it. By quite a way...

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#23 posted by veffekt , March 3, 2008 3:33 PM

This is not a chinese picture book, but a picture book translated into Chinese. Children's books with images are generic or demonsrate some aspect of culture from the source language. You can find out the source by looking in the credits of the book. Perhaps European? I swear I have seen that image before. (I research visual cognition in young learners between cultures so sadly enough, I read a lot of "my first thousand words" in various languages. It is great when you come across something that visually represents the culture. In most languages, it is about cheap production so 'localizing' the book into the target language achieves that.

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#24 posted by Takuan , March 3, 2008 3:36 PM

I meant, what would a child raised in industrial smog, crowed dirty buildings and masses of people think of an image of "nature" like that?
http://earth.esa.int/ers/ers_action/Beijing_China_SAR_IM_Orbit_39150_20021016.jpg

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TP1024 has it. If a honeycomb is natural, so is an apartment complex or an abortion clinic.

Or plastic.

Or my poor, besieged liver.

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Coal power stations do have cooling towers.

look at Drax in the uk

http://www.draxpower.com/explore_drax/power_station/?id=1719

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Something I noticed in Taiwan when I visited was that the Taiwanese certainly like their nature to be well managed: I went to places like Yangminshan, the mountain in the middle of Taipei, which is essentially a country park, Dongshang River Park, which is a beautifully manicured riverside in Ilan County, and a 'flower park' whose name I didn't get as it was all in Mandarin, which was several acres of well attended fields of different flowers.
Similarly I came across a website about climbing in Hong Kong, which has some incredible cliffs and mountains, but which are hardly visited by the Chinese, who would apparently prefer to get the tram or escalator up the Peak.

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