New Obama campaign logo to debut

Heh. (thanks Aaron).

[#1 posted by mmbb , February 27, 2008 8:09 PM]

Bng Bng bcms lss f " Drctry f Wndrfl Thngs" wth vry dmbssd pstng lk ths. Cngrtltns!

[#2 posted by palindromic , February 27, 2008 8:09 PM]

Maybe its just me but I'm getting really bored with goatse references. It was funny when it was an inadvertent Time cover but now I'M OVER IT.

[#3 posted by Antinous , February 27, 2008 8:14 PM]

I, on the other hand, will laugh out loud at goatse until the day that I finally achieve it for myself.

[#4 posted by travelina , February 27, 2008 8:15 PM]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Now this Hillary logo has class:
http://www.banterist.com/archivefiles/000540.html

[#5 posted by OM , February 27, 2008 8:19 PM]

...You Boingers owe me a keyboard, dammit!

[#6 posted by OCNCTY , February 27, 2008 9:32 PM]

Wow, Antinous, I've got to say... you've now placed Goatse on par with Enlightenment; something to marvel until it can be achieved.

[#7 posted by Takuan , February 27, 2008 9:37 PM]

I thought it was the last donut

[#8 posted by Euryale , February 27, 2008 9:43 PM]

I never really understood why it was supposed to be so funny in the first place, Palindromic, so it's not just you.

[#9 posted by teapot7 , February 27, 2008 9:50 PM]

So was post #1 self disemvowelled?

If not, why on earth did you guys do it? - because frankly it seems like fair comment, and correct as well, to me.

[#10 posted by Takuan , February 27, 2008 9:55 PM]

what if it read: "I don't think this is a good post for BoingBoing. I like to see things that are more "wonderful", at least to me"

Think it would have stood then? Is the meaning the same?

[#11 posted by Antinous , February 27, 2008 10:22 PM]

Goatse is not on a par with enlightenment! Kitteh is on a par with enlightenment.

[#12 posted by Guapito , February 27, 2008 10:27 PM]

That's supposed to be a wedding ring.
That's what makes goatse so great: To whom is this guy married!?

[#13 posted by craniac , February 27, 2008 10:28 PM]

I have an 11-year-old who is fixated on legos. He is constantly making trades with his friends, building stuff, talking about them. Unlike the above reference, however, Legos are vaguely interesting. Maybe it's time to move on.

[#14 posted by mmbb , February 27, 2008 10:31 PM]

gss t s nc t knw, t lst, tht Bng Bng bhvs lk ptlnt chld whn fcd wth crtcsm. Thnks fr th lssn.

[#15 posted by help i cant comfirm my username themelonbread , February 27, 2008 10:33 PM]

I say the graphic artist was a Republican sabateur who wants to spark moral outrage once someone in the public realizes what Goatse is.

[#16 posted by Takuan , February 27, 2008 10:39 PM]

@14

an error in tone and now repeated. Why?

[#17 posted by Agent 86 , February 27, 2008 10:53 PM]

wow, learn something new every day. I always thought the disemvowelling was something people did on purpose, almost like it was the new l337 speak.

[#18 posted by sylvies_mammacita , February 27, 2008 10:56 PM]

"One, two, three, four, I declare a thumb war!"

[#19 posted by Tubman , February 28, 2008 3:37 AM]

@#16 A point that might have been worth making were the subject matter, say, a nuanced analysis of Eichenbaum's work in the late 1920s. In case it had escaped your notice, we are in fact dealing with a puerile allusion to a photo of a man who has an arse like a wind sock.

[#20 posted by antipax , February 28, 2008 6:00 AM]

Boing Boing likes Hillary? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[#21 posted by mirrormonkey , February 28, 2008 6:07 AM]

oh look a circle, lets put hands around it and make it look like goatse. hooray, best of the web!

[#22 posted by Landowner , February 28, 2008 6:12 AM]

Don't listen to them Xeni. Someday when you publish your "Big Book of Goatse" I'll buy the first copy.

[#23 posted by Jeff , February 28, 2008 6:12 AM]

For a moment there I thought I saw hands pulling a shirt open to expose a superhero logo. You know, like Superman showing his big ol'S. Hell yes!

[#24 posted by doggo , February 28, 2008 7:40 AM]

Oh, I'd love to be a fly on the wall when they explain to Barack why they can't use the logo.

"So, tell me why we can't use this logo..."

"Well sir, it emblematic of an old Internet meme."

"A who?"

Opens browser, "This, sir, is why."

"JESUS!!! Yeah. Okay. I get it. Please close that now. Ah, yeah, let's just get another logo. Excuse me, I need to go find a picture of a unicorn."

[#25 posted by Cameron Barrett , February 28, 2008 9:19 AM]

Um, why is this kind of crap on Boing Boing? If I wanted to see stupid political-bashing crap there are thousands of mouth-breather blogs who post this kind of garbage day in and day out.

This is a step down for Boing Boing. I expected better.

[#26 posted by TYHTF , February 28, 2008 9:24 AM]

I enjoy the advertising-oriented posts on Boing Boing.

Do not like the new logo though...looks like two people are fighting over a strange frisbee. Perhaps cupping/cradling the frisbee would work better. The hope frisbee should be nurtured, not ripped in two.

And what's the point of a bright yellow middle finger ring?

[#27 posted by Takuan , February 28, 2008 9:34 AM]

what is this goatse thing everyone is always talking about?

[#28 posted by meowdip , February 28, 2008 9:34 AM]

@#25
I don't think this is really political bashing. Just because boingboing links to a picture making fun of a politicians logo doesn't mean that they are making a statement about the politician. Of course I also make fun of my good friends more than anyone else, so maybe I just have warped sensibilities.

Also, @15, I assure you that Aaron (the artist) is not a republican operative.

[#29 posted by Chris Griswold , February 28, 2008 9:53 AM]

Do some some of the people commenting really not get that this is not an actual logo?

[#30 posted by Sean Blueart , February 28, 2008 10:16 AM]

Yeah, The goatse thing never did meet my need for humor, intrigue, creativity, community or anything else. At this point it's beginning to interfere with my enjoyment of the otherwise wonderful blog, and my eyes are actually beginning to hurt from the wincing. Mercy, I beg thee, mercy!

[#31 posted by Mia MacHatton , February 28, 2008 10:25 AM]

I love how not only is this a joke, but that a Quebec news site used the image for an article.
http://www.centpapiers.com/Presidentielle-americaine-Obama-le,3180

[#32 posted by ill lich , February 28, 2008 11:11 AM]

Oh please. We all saw this coming, didn't some cartoonist already make this joke? Now show me a Hillary-as-tub-girl, or "2-girls-1-McCain", maybe I'll laugh at that.

Maybe.

[#33 posted by Dillenger69 , February 28, 2008 11:12 AM]

It's funny because it's gross!

/I lol'd

[#34 posted by teapot7 , February 28, 2008 12:45 PM]

DILLINGERR69 wrote:

> It's funny because it's gross!

It's tired. Really really tired. And crass.

Can' we declare this one dead? At least 'all your base...' was kinda catchy.

[#35 posted by Wirelizard , February 28, 2008 1:49 PM]

"All your base are belong to goatse"?

"All your base are belong to Obama"?

Whatever. This still make me grin - and no need for a unicorn chaser!

[#36 posted by Antinous , February 28, 2008 1:53 PM]

Now show me a Hillary-as-tub-girl

How do you know that Tubgirl wasn't Hillary?

It's tired. Really really tired. And crass.

It's funny to some of us. And that almost sounds like a dare. Perhaps I'll look for an image that makes goatse look like a baby unicorn playing with pastel kittens. I wouldn't want you to get bored.

[#37 posted by Takuan , February 28, 2008 2:11 PM]

what's a tub-girl?

[#38 posted by Antinous , February 28, 2008 2:18 PM]

Don't look it up! Trust.

[#39 posted by Takuan , February 28, 2008 2:25 PM]

OK. One of the advantages of time ruining one is it becomes so much easier to resist temptation.

[#40 posted by Sean Clancy , February 28, 2008 2:27 PM]

Could we please for feck's sake declare an Internet-wide moratorium on further goatse references until the end of time? Thank you.

P.S. -- While perhaps the first poster should not have used the word "dmbssd," I agree with his criticism and feel that his disemvoweling was unwarranted.

[#41 posted by Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator , February 28, 2008 2:42 PM]

Teapot7, since I didn't disemvowel that comment, it must have been one of the boingers; i.e., the people whose website this is. Since I can't imagine you'd argue that you ought not control the content on your own website, you'll surely want to grant them the same rights.

That said, I agree with the disemvowellment. MMBB has posted some good comments in other threads, but that one's sour, negative, and a real downer. It's also the first comment in the thread. I have a high regard for the Boing Boing commentariat, but not all of them have shaken the habit of piling on in the wake of negative remarks.

...

Those of you who don't like the content of the original post can try reading this article on Graphic design and the Obama campaign. The typeface they're talking about is the one used here.

[#42 posted by Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator , February 28, 2008 3:26 PM]

Sean Clancy, if I were putting it to a vote, yours would surely be tabulated.

[#43 posted by teapot7 , February 28, 2008 3:49 PM]

Teresa Nielsen Hayden at #41 writes:

> Teapot7, since I didn't disemvowel that comment, it must have been one of the boingers; i.e., the people whose website this is.

Fair enough. Actually I'd assumed you'd be the only one doing moderation, now that there is such a thing as full time moderator.

Though it's not what's happening here, self disemvowelling to make moderators look intolerant could be the new troll trick for 2008. Where do I sign up for a futurist think tank?

> That said, I agree with the disemvowellment. MMBB has posted some good comments in other threads, but that one's sour, negative, and a real downer.

It raises the question of when disemvowelment is appropriate, and I think that's at least partly dependent on the nature of the website.

For a strictly personal blog, disemvoweling any comment that's even mildly irritating is fine. For something like BoingBoing which is more like the web equivalent of a big mass market magazine, I think angry letters to the editor have their place, and that "sour, negative, and a real downer" need not be disqualifying features. Obviously the owners still have a right to do whatever they want - it's their toy - but it doesn't seem such a good idea to me.

That said, the question of where to draw the line is never going to have an objective answer...

[#44 posted by Antinous , February 28, 2008 4:43 PM]

Though it's not what's happening here, self disemvowelling to make moderators look intolerant could be the new troll trick for 2008. Where do I sign up for a futurist think tank?

Been done. It's called sppk or hr kr.

BoingBoing which is more like the web equivalent of a big mass market magazine

In your mind and many others, but not in the BBers. It's their collective personal blog. Yes it has ads, but lots of personal blogs have AdSense. That doesn't mean that the bloggers have any obligation to the readers. Besides, try arguing with Time magazine. Very few comments get disemvoweled due to political content; very many for complaining about not being sufficiently amused.

[#45 posted by teapot7 , February 28, 2008 6:16 PM]

ANTINOUS at #44 wrote:

> In your mind and many others, but not in the BBers. It's their collective personal blog.

Yeah - there's a definite tension between the two views.

> Yes it has ads, but lots of personal blogs have AdSense. That doesn't mean that the bloggers have any obligation to the readers.

No - I wasn't thinking ads were significant - more the fact that it's one of the biggest sites on the net and has a readership in the trillions (approximately). I can't recall the last time I bothered to look at Wired, but BoingBoing has taken over from it in my mind.

> Besides, try arguing with Time magazine.

I'll pass.

[#46 posted by greenshinobi , February 28, 2008 10:22 PM]

I hoped that 2007 would be the last year BB posted a Goatse reference. Seems like I was wrong.

It's not funny any more!

[#47 posted by Antinous , February 28, 2008 10:34 PM]

To you, oh center of the universe.

[#48 posted by Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator , February 29, 2008 2:04 PM]

Teapot, if the boingers want to intervene in the threads, it's still their weblog. The principle applies to the moderator, too.

For the record, the boingers do care about their readers' opinions. If they didn't, they would never have reopened comments. It's just that they bat last.

[#49 posted by Takuan , February 29, 2008 2:12 PM]

(psst! Teapot!, look, get wise, you think I get to post here because I'm smart or write well?? Get serious! The deal is $100 each, once a week, to Teresa,Cory, Mark,David,Joel,John and $200 to Xeni.
It's expensive but you can do ANYTHING!)

[#50 posted by Teresa Nielsen Hayden / Moderator , February 29, 2008 2:24 PM]

*ahem*

[#51 posted by Takuan , February 29, 2008 2:28 PM]

the $200 for Xeni? One of the apples has to be inscribed;"for the fairest" That's tradition, that is.

[#52 posted by Antinous , February 29, 2008 2:29 PM]

Eris?

[#53 posted by teapot7 , February 29, 2008 11:06 PM]

Teresa at #48 wrote:

> Teapot(7!), if the boingers want to intervene in the threads, it's still their weblog. The principle applies to the moderator, too.

well yes - I *did* earlier say: "Obviously the owners still have a right to do whatever they want - it's their toy", so it certainly sounds like we're agreeing.

[#54 posted by redsquid , March 2, 2008 2:42 PM]

You and your stretched butthole fascination are so lame!

[#55 posted by Antinous , March 2, 2008 2:47 PM]

Lame?

Buzz words are annoying.