Declassified doc shows Hoover planned mass jailing in 1950
The NYT reports today of a recently declassified document which reveals that longtime FBI head J. Edgar Hoover once planned to suspend habeas corpus in the US, and imprison 12,000 citizens he suspected of being disloyal.
Hoover sent his plan to the White House on July 7, 1950, 12 days after the Korean War began. It envisioned putting suspect Americans in military prisons.Link (thanks, 'Werewolf boy')Hoover wanted President Harry S. Truman to proclaim the mass arrests necessary to “protect the country against treason, espionage and sabotage.” The F.B.I would “apprehend all individuals potentially dangerous” to national security, Hoover’s proposal said. The arrests would be carried out under “a master warrant attached to a list of names” provided by the bureau.
The names were part of an index that Hoover had been compiling for years. “The index now contains approximately twelve thousand individuals, of which approximately ninety-seven per cent are citizens of the United States,” he wrote.
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Time Weiner's article in the NYT contains this inaccuracy:
Truman didn't sign the McCarran Act, dubbed the "concentration camp law", he vetoed it but his veto was over ridden by Congress. It was later ruled unconstitutional.
Hoover also wanted to set up tribunals to try the detainees.
Sound familiar? The current "do not fly" list has some 700,000 names and includes information such as your reading habits. If you had any doubts about exactly what is going on they should be gone by now. But I don't think this criminal cabal is too worried. It isn't like you'll ever do anything about it.
If only J. Edgar was alive today. He may have been able to carry out his wet dream.
The list? Where's Hoover's list?
When you consider the scanty evidence on which Hoover was willing to classify someone as disloyal, that's a frightening story.
BTW, I've been worried about "do not fly" lists since I first heard of them. It doesn't matter whether they're maintained by the government or by a theoretically independent company. As long as they exist, they can be made official on short notice.
You'd do well to remember that Hoover was appointed by FDR, whose internment of Japanese Americans (Only those on the West coast) was nothing less than criminal, and who remains a hero of the democratic party to this day.
I don't remember who it was that made this point, but consider the Do-not-fly lists in an abstract sense. Consider that these list contain people who are so dangerous that they cannot be allowed on a plane. Have you firmly grasped that concept? Now consider that these same people are not nearly dangerous enough to arrest or detain. Someone too dangerous to let fly but not dangerous enough to prevent them from arriving at the airport.
There are some very good points in the other story about the TSA and their security theater, so I'll not repeat them here.
Sorry, Moderator, about mentioning H.R. 1955 / S. 1959 in another post on another entry, but yes, H.R. 1955 has been passed already. It all fits together like dovetail woodwork. If you want some prior examples of legislative or executive documents relating to mass detentions of citizens and others, perform a search for REX-84 (Readiness Exercise 1984), and then flash forward and also know that there was a contract put up by Homeland Security for 'temporary' detention centers, which has already been awarded to Haliburton / Kellog, Brown & Root.
What I want to know is when I became such a conspiracy nut...
Well, they have demonstrated the technical ability to do these kinds of roundups twice already during this administration:
10,000 Arrests in one week:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/04/14/fugitive.arrests/index.html
400 Arrests in one week:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/30/AR2005083000946.html
If you think that those operations were not the result of some serious data mining and proofs-of-concept for large scale law enforcement coordination, I think you are naive. They have tested these capabilities against groups that everyone agrees should be taken off the streets, so no one seems to have paid much attention.
You'd do well to remember that Hoover was appointed by FDR, whose internment of Japanese Americans (Only those on the West coast) was nothing less than criminal, and who remains a hero of the democratic party to this day.
The only on I know of who defends the internment, and FDR's involvement, is Michelle Malkin.
Nice try though.
After the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, the person who organized and oversaw the rounding up and internment of west coast Japanese was then California Attorney General Earl Warren. President Eisenhower later appointed Warren to be Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court.
Warren greatly disappointed Eisenhower and other conservatives by becoming a staunch defender of civil rights. To the surprise of many, Warren was a much more liberal justice than had been anticipated. As a result, Eisenhower is said to have remarked that nominating Warren for the Chief Justice seat was "the biggest damned-fool mistake I ever made.
In his autobiography, Warren confessed: "I have since deeply regretted the removal order and my own testimony advocating it, because it was not in keeping with our American concept of freedom and the rights of citizens. Whenever I thought of the innocent little children who were torn from home, school friends and congenial surroundings, I was conscience-stricken."
Start tuning up your tinfoil hats...
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/03/281821.shtml
Imagine how different this country--and the world--might be today if this plan had gone through. If America had not surrendered to the International Socialist conspiracy against her. I'd support the arrest and internment of 50,000 disloyal American citizens tomorrow morning, but I think it might be too late.