Boing Boing t-shirts by COOP!

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Ladies and gentlemen, we are thrilled to present these boss new Boing Boing t-shirts with hellishly cool artwork by our dear friend and co-conspirator COOP! This devilish design certainly casts the lovely Jackhammer Jill in a new light! And in homage to the first ever bOING bOING t-shirt from 1990, the black COOP shirt features glow-in-the-dark ink! Both colors are available in men's and women's sizes. The men's shirts are $22.95 and the women's are $23.95. It's a limited run so get 'em while they're hot! Link (Thanks, COOP and Ruth!)

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Time to update Jill in the banner so she looks more like the t-shirt.

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Don't you dare!

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Boingy boingy boingy...

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Awesome, Awesome, Awesome.

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Jackhammer Jill, now with more fan service

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I completely want this for my wallpaper. Can we has a download section?

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Despite my default hornballitude, I think I actually prefer Jill unsexy, as in the banner, or the way ApeLad interpreted her. I have nothing but the utmost love for Coop's chops (doesn't everyone love his cover for Lords of Acid's Voodoo U?), and I still might get this tee, but as a mascot she works perfectly as is.

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Very cool! Got a couple, thanks!

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And here all this time, I'd been thinking that the mascot was a lumberjack on a pogo stick. Now that is a t-shirt that I'd actually wear.

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Sigh...Boing Boing, I'm disappointed in you. What's with the hotcha babe busting out of her shirt? This hyper-sexualized chickie just cheapens and tarnishes your image. Unless you're thinking of changing your name to Boob Boob?

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It is really adolescent-hetero-male, isn't it? Kind of exclusive, I think (as opposed to inclusive).

You can tell this comes out of a comic book aesthetic, as opposed to the punk aesthetic, which was the first to allow women to be androgenous or asexual. I.e., to be considered as people, rather than transportation systems for boobs and a "potato" (as one of my aunts calls it!).

Brilliantly drawn, though. I'd definitely wear that.

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She cain't hep it!

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Don't question a coop drawing unless you can make something sweeter, which has a likelihood of about %.0000112

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It's a wonderful thing.

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"Don't question a coop drawing unless you can make something sweeter, which has a likelihood of about %.0000112"

Apart from the inherent problems with that argument (don't have an opinion on a movie unless you are also a movie director?), you're claiming that only 1 in ten million people can draw that well, which might be overstating things just a little.

At this point, I can no longer tell if the art showcased on Boing Boing is meant to be ironic, post-ironic, or post-post-ironic.

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"If she winks an eye, the bread slice turn to toast!"

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NickD: You can tell this comes out of a comic book aesthetic, as opposed to the punk aesthetic

As an aspiring comicker and a legit comic teacher, I can most certainly assure you the two are not mutually exclusive.

Jolon: Don't question a coop drawing unless you can make something sweeter, which has a likelihood of about %.0000112

In the immortal words of Han Solo, Never tell me the odds!

I would not be so foolish as to attempt to try to outdo Coop in his native idiom. His ladies are sexier than those of Adam Hughes, Frank Cho and Milo Manara combined. I will be satisfied to be the best version of me possible, thanks. This does not preclude commentary on the wisdom of utilizing his imagery, which has nothing to do with the quality thereof.

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"Apart from the inherent problems with that argument (don't have an opinion on a movie unless you are also a movie director?), you're claiming that only 1 in ten million people can draw that well, which might be overstating things just a little."

That's right, I was making a subjective judgement call about coop's ability to represent vis a vis the rest, because that's as much my right as someone saying she's not feminine, righteous, or won't kick your teeth in because she's hot. This is an inherently anti-feminist stance. Hot chicks run the world just as much as non-hot ones.

"At this point, I can no longer tell if the art showcased on Boing Boing is meant to be ironic, post-ironic, or post-post-ironic."

I would go for post-apocalyptic iConic. But that's another subjective call for everyone to make for themselves.

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Geez COOP, $7.50 for shipping? Amazon charges, what, 3.99?

Comes out to $32.34 for me (includes CA sales tax).

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So..if I had a great set of knockers, I wouldn't be allowed to like punk, right? Whew..good thing man-boobs don't count.

Way to go COOP!!! Way to go BB! Thank you for passing on the $125 hoody option on this one!

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At this point, I can no longer tell if the art showcased on Boing Boing is meant to be ironic, post-ironic, or post-post-ironic.

How about merely "cross-promotional"?

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Is "cross-promotional" a code word for bad-ass? Maybe it is when it comes to Coop and BB!

I can't wait to sport my t-shirt in the rural environs of Kent, Ohio. These folks need some blog-zine culture in the days of post-capitalism.

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#23 posted by seyo , December 9, 2007 9:40 AM

TERRIBLE!!!!

Coop may be a decent illustrator, but he's no T-shirt designer. Just imagine how disgustingly uncomfortable that shirt will be, especially in the summer, it will be a sheet of hot plastic on your belly.

Good t-shirt designs are minimal for this reason. Too much printed area is not only very uncomfortable because it heats up and doesnt breathe, it also breaks up more easily. After two washes (maybe Coop doesnt wash his clothes, since he's so rich now, he can just throw them out) it will be all cracked and will start to peel.

Back to the drawing board Coop!

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Just curious as to how that price structure works out. Why do the women's shirts cost one dollar more?

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She reminds me of Abby from "NCIS".

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Rlly lkng frwrd t nxt yr's shrt wth lttl blck sbsrvnt lwn jcky.

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Nah, Milo Manara is untouchable (and so are his babes) .I'm sorry, but comparing Coop (virtually unknown outside his very small niche) to Manara is like comparing a Ford to a Ferrari....

The checkered pattern on the t-shirt is terrible, terrible computery failed pop-art.

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Sexism aside, I just don't get it. Why a buxom woman with a jackhammer? What does that have to do with Boing Boing? Am I just being dense here and it's supposed to be some Dadaistic thing or am I missing something?

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Screw over-priced "wearable art"-- this is great-- nice illo, glows in the dark and reasonably priced for most people's budget.

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PATTIS, #26, you nailed it. Grin...

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What's up with the women's shirts being $1 more? It was lame when drycleaners charged more for women's clothing, it's lame when simple haircuts cost more, and it's lame when boingboing does it. One would think you'd be a little more enlightened.

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"So..if I had a great set of knockers, I wouldn't be allowed to like punk, right? Whew..good thing man-boobs don't count."

But they do! No punk for you!

But seriously, my comment was not meant to imply that women shouldn't revel in their sexiness, or that men shouldn't admire sexy women; and I didn't mean that comic books are really, really sexist and that punk wasn't. I wuz just, you know, thinkin' out loud....

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Amphigorey,

Women's shirts have a different cut, in order to ehm... "highlight certain anatomical features". Therefore they take slightly more work to make. Which would explain the price difference.

(I know this 'cause my mother used to be a taylor. Not in New Orleans, and she didn't sell my new blue jeans... :-)

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@27: So the lesser known is like a Ford? I don't see the analogy - it's weak.

@28: Look at the top. Jackhammer Jill. Been the BB mascot for many years now. She's not traditionally buxom, but that's Coop's idiom.

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Why was my comment disemvowelled?

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DCulberson: Of course! I'm such an idiot!

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FlyingDutchman, Amphigorey: I wouldn't say "highlight," exactly; but if it's anything like handmade knitwear, women's styles are a bit more complicated. Fronts and backs are always going to be different, on account of the shoulder shaping; but fronts for women's fitted knitwear are more different than that.

Or maybe it's some other reason entirely.

Elizo, PattiS: Pick your fights, willya? I'm not sure that anything short of wiping out our species will get people to stop going "hubba, hubba!" over cheesecake art, or artists to stop drawing it.

Besides, that art's not too bad. I'll take it over Milo Manara any day. She's physically plausible (see Dolly Parton); she's wearing real clothes rather than tinted skin; she isn't arching her back like a rat in estrus; and she's got serious thigh muscles and is operating a jackhammer; so yay, Coop, sez I. Furthermore, if Coop isn't riffing slightly on Norman Rockwell's "Rosie the Riveter" (which itself was riffing on Michelangelo), I'll eat my Sunday funnies.

Nick D. (11):

You can tell this comes out of a comic book aesthetic, as opposed to the punk aesthetic...
Neither. Are you kidding? Look at the feet. The primary influence there is Al Capp.

Squid (28), everyone imagines a different Jackhammer Jill. This is Coop's.

Seyo (23), it depends on the medium used to reproduce the image. Iron-on plastic doesn't breathe. Screen printing on fabric does.

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PattiS (35): Okay, let's try to make this a learning experience. Why do you think that happened?

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Okay, so here's another thing that bugs me about the design: Jackhammer Jill isn't jackhammering. She's posing. The real JJ in the logo is actually using her hammer, whereas this new one isn't doing anything other than looking cute.

This wouldn't be even worth noting except that it's yet another instance in a long, long line of images of women doing nothing but posing. Look at the history of advertising, and contrast the images of women with those of men: often, you see women posing or being looked at, while the men are more active and engaged.

I think it would be a much cooler design if Jill were actually using that jackhammer, like she does in the logo.

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#40 posted by wakd , December 9, 2007 8:16 PM

Sorry Coop, but $32.50 for shipping to Sydney Australia is outrageous. Also, I had to fill in all my details and credit card number before proceeding to a page that stated the intl shipping fee. I suppose I should have "emailed for foreign shipping" , but if it's already set at US$32.50, why not mention it before having to enter all detail and C/C number? Most T's I buy from the US are shipped to Australia for US$10-15.
USD$55.45 or around $70 australian for a t-shirt (even one this cool) is too much for me!

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Yes, it's hideously overpriced (especially if you live in Australia)... bbt nlk th Bng Bng hd, t lst t sn't hdsly vrprcd ND btt-gly. You can't go wrong with a Coop girl on your chest.

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mmmmmpatriarchy. that's what i'm talking about!

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@#37: "Look at the feet. The primary influence there is Al Capp."

First I was like, "What's Andy Capp got to do with it?"

Then I realized you were probably referring to Daisy Mae. Or is that Ellie Mae?... no, that's the Beverly Hillbillies.... OK, yeah, I can see that. Daisy Mae. Sure. Only Jill doesn't look ditzy like Daisy Mae. Daisy crossed with Rosie, maybe. Rosie Mae.

It's not that it isn't tastefully done, because it is. It's just that I have to wonder, if I think it's sexist, how do women viewing it feel about it? I hope more women readers will tell us, just because I think that's interesting and I'm curious.

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I like it. I'd wear it. I prefer seeing girls in comic books as opposed to fashion models. The excessively thin androgenous Calvin Klein-esque thing bores me and is super unhealthy.

Re "You can tell this comes out of a comic book aesthetic, as opposed to the punk aesthetic, which was the first to allow women to be androgenous or asexual." Check out the aesthetic of the 10s and 20s. Ever heard of Marlene Dietrich? or Frida Kahlo? Two beautiful women who played with gender.

that's my two cents.

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Sure, Blamer. Because the patriarchy just loves self-confident girls who operate jackhammers.

Amphigorey, this isn't just posing with tools. For that, you want the Petty girls from the old Ridgid Tools Calendar.

As for your notion that Jill should be jackhammering, frankly, I don't think you've thought it through. Can you imagine what the speed and motion lines would look like on that figure if she were shown using the jackhammer?

In general, this isn't good political persuasion. You guys are talking about Coop like he's Rob Liefeld or Milo Manara. He's not. He isn't even George Petty. Many of your listeners who might otherwise be reachable can see that. The cognitive dissonance costs you credibility with them, and makes you seem faintly unreasonable, which loses you today's chance to change their minds.

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Can you imagine what the speed and motion lines would look like on that figure if she were shown using the jackhammer?

That's what the repeated boingboing pattern in the background is supposed to represent, isn't it? Oh, right, it's the site that's named BoingBoing. Sorry... I guess my adolescent snicker reflex is in overdrive today.

More seriously, I'm guessing that the design gives a rather different impression to the vast majority of the general population who are unfamiliar with BoingBoing's iconic logo.

While it's not my style to wear t-shirts that prominently feature sexy babes (no matter how wonderful, intelligent or skilled in road construction they may be), I still recognize the skill behind Coop's drawing. I'm sure that the shirts will sell out quickly and be enjoyed by fans the world over.

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@44: "Check out the aesthetic of the 10s and 20s. Ever heard of Marlene Dietrich? or Frida Kahlo?"

I knew that statement about punk was going to get me in trouble!

I didn't mean to make any sort of absolute claim, although I guess I did. Although, to be fair, Dietrich and Kahlo were not movements. Punk was. I guess that was my point.

I don't know if coop is a sexist or not. Only coop knows for sure; and maybe not even him.

What I'm curious about is whether women, when they see this image, identify with it, or no? Or is identification just irrelevent to you, and you just either like or dislike the image?

The thought experiment for men I guess would be: imagine it's Jackhammer Jack, and he's incredibly hunky and muscled up. I.e., not like most of the men you see on the street.

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#48 posted by AGF , December 10, 2007 5:15 PM

@ 47 The reason I mentioned the aesthetics of the 10s and 20s was because there seemed to be an androgenous movement. I'm sorry I don't know what to label it. (Kahlo really is a bit later.) I just don't think Punk is the first time girls went there - but it doesn't really matter!
Re identification- Yes, this is an image I can identify with. I often feel that way about comics, especially in comparison to say Cosmo. So as far as depictions of women in pop culture go - I dig this one.
Identity is a really interesting question. Perhaps it's about where we can see common ground. I can certainly think of images where I wouldn't automatically say - oh yes that's me - but I still really like. It's a good question.
I have to say I really enjoy boingboing and all the comments! There is a great deal of intelligent discourse here. You make me think.

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Teresa, how is that *not* just posing with tools? In the shirt, she's standing with the hammer. Not using it. Posing. I don't see how you've refuted my statement at all.

As for political persuasion and Coop's sensibilities, I'm not familiar with anything else he's done. I am going solely by this image, and what this image says to me is that it is another in a long, long line of representing women as objects of the male gaze. It's not that cheesecake art is inherently problematic; it's the social context that makes it so. (Also, you can be perfectly enlightened and still create sexist art. That doesn't make it less sexist.)

I find it hard to believe that Coop, as a skilled illustrator, couldn't just as well have had her use the jackhammer.

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That's interesting, AGF (#44). Thanks.

I don't know what that era's androgyny was called, either. Or was it just that women stopped wearing frilly, impractical things all the time, and started wearing pants and other utilitarian clothing?

Too late for the New Woman thing. Not a flapper thing, I wouldn't think. I don't know.

But it's been said that the 20's is when the REAL sexual revolution occurred. I.e., when people first started to be promiscuous on a large scale. (They just didn't talk about it openly until the 60s.)

Maybe that's why we begin to see independent women in that era. Because for the first time they could chose their sexual partners, as men had been able to do before then. That would be quite empowering, I would think.

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Coop's well known for his porny style of art. He's all about the objectified female pose. Boing Boing has had a long love affair with Coop and is pretty well known for being porny itself, so this shirt ain't no surprise. I don't think women are expected to identify with this image. I don't think women were thought of at all as a potential audience/consumer for this image. (I'm sure there'll be some female pornhound that loves it but you know it wasn't meant for you any more than your porn is!)

For the mod who says "pick your fights," why don't you just get on with the 'get a sense of humor, why don't you?' cuz that's what the women that object to the object are used to hearing and it sounds like that is what you would like to say. I certainly hear you - "This is not an appropriate place to expect feminist thought, ladies, so STFU! And enjoy the boobies!"

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On the Nickle:

I get the impression that you equate porn with sexism; or is that a misreading of the above?

You also obviously dislke porn. Is it all porn you dislike, or is there porn that you don't think is exploitive?

Just wondering.

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$7.50 for shipping +
no delivery estimate anywhere on the site +
ordered almost a month ago and it hasn't arrived +
2 inquiries emailed to customer service(unanswered) =
a disgruntled Boinger reduced to bitching in an old post.

Geez Coop, if I wanted to be ignored I'd contact Verizon....

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